You were talking about domesticated animals and how horrible it would be if we couldn't euthanize them, despite the fact that they cannot consent. Non-verbal (and otherwise incommunicable people) are the human equivalent. The question is: do we euthanize people - without consent - for any reason? You just said doing so is genocide. Try and connect the dots. Euthanizing people or animals without consent because we decide they have no quality of life and would be better of dead is problematic.
Disagree.
No, I didn't misunderstand you. You're making assumptions about where I'm coming from. Of course you're not advocating for unregulated euthanasia. I never said any such thing.
I also don't think you were saying disabled people should be euthanized - I rightly assumed the opposite - because, as you acknowledged: killing people is wrong. I'm just pointing out that you are being inconsistent with humans/animals. Perhaps you believe that inconsistency is just because animals are not people. Fair enough. I'm just having a discussion with you.
Yes. I agree. I think you need to lay off the acid for a while. Just before I read that sentence, it was fresh in my head already. You keep detailing the extraordinary amount of psychedelic drugs you're consuming. Everything in moderation. LSD provides more useful revelations if you don't abuse it. This is coming from somebody who has abused it and other psychs for decades. Eventually, you will destroy any value they have...
Hey, sorry mate I missed this altogether somehow. Just by chance now. I always like to hear your exact thoughts and appreciate particularly that you don’t hold back, but in well meaning and straightforwardness always. No matter how contrasting or, opposing, your views may be, I’m fully open to what you have to say.
However fixed I admittedly seem, I listen to everything. I mull it through, to try and understand where it came from. Check it out at least. Lots of that is subconscious but not always. Trust me I would love to be wrong, about so many things. In that regard, my ego is flattened out for good.
So please feel no hesitation in letting out whatever comes to mind. We both have passion.
On your final point....I’m doing just that. This is day 7 no acid now. I’m feeling refreshed from the break more by the day but it was choppy a bit, you probably saw me elsewhere how it finished at 14.5 mg’s in 6.5 weeks.
I’ve no regrets. I’ve “explored” these substances since 1996. I’ve never gone quite as deep and long on LSD alone, I really wanted to experience that. I never expected an easy settling grounding.
Crazy thing is, day one, 6 week break, was 1875 ug.
Days 17 & 18 were 155, 145 ug, the most intense trips of the 7930 total by then.
And they talk about tolerance.
Sorry, it’s a big part of my life and documenting it helps me keep track.
So above....in any order...maybe you mistook me? I wasn’t meaning it’s braver to take suicide, that was in jest. I won’t ever look unfavourably on somebody who does.
But obviously it’s long carried a slogan of being the selfish coward’s way out.
My Dad committed suicide by H Overdose aged 3.
My Step Dad was a legendary but genuinely good, increeeedibly hard and known for it gangster, with Bipolar.
He blew his brains with a shotgun when I was 7.
Luckily, I had not learnt to grieve by then. I escaped. But I love my mum I’m all she has, it’s the only thing that really really matters to me, I care about everyone and thing at same time though.
Point- my own life has been insufferable for a good while. Like, no ease, respite, no hope. I feel way more comfortable this week after a fantastic chiropractic Total Body Modification last Friday, but my life force, energy still needs time and help,to come up.
I fight on. Always in hope of survival, comfort, recovery, most of all I want to be there for my mum when she needs me most.
But it hurts so bad too, to go through prolonged spells of being so physically drained, never can breathe, zero immunity, literally starving by definition not figure of speech, with no belief in hope.
Now....I’m not a 13 year old Greyhound in severe pain, back legs gone can’t stand for garden, toilet, stairs etc.
We had BEAUTIFUL Bee put down 2016.
I speak passionately and figuratively, misread literally sometimes.
I just mean, and I appreciate the complexity of ethics in determining allowance to human euthanasia, and I get what you say about the ethical factor of non consentable animals, AND humans.
I don’t have the answers, I’m just an open thinker. I just strongly feel it’s a shame where people who are terminally ill, in monstrous pain, slowly, inevitably dying, have that or one option- Dignitas in Switzerland for £10,000 assisted dying (when Flights reopen lol).
“What’s your plans for the summer?”
“Oh just waiting until,August then I’m hopefully going to Switzerland to comfortably end my suffering in peaceful surroundings, if I make it that long”
I’m not taking piss or trying to be flippant. My Uncle died of stomach and lung tumours 18 months ago. It was terminal. He was in horrific pain for ages, no hope, bedridden, pooing sheets, worse by the day, my dear Aunty looking after him, until he finally passed.
So I was just using the comparison with animals in that sense. Like, imagine if animal, non consent of course yes, Euthanasia was not available or legal, and every time a beloved pet gets to that irrecoverable and unendurable position, the owners would suffer much more emotionally, practically.
I’m not trying to challenge or rebut here. I’ve not got razor witts presently, if ever, lovely pure cannabis vapor and kava high today so dreamy. I just tried to explain my feelings and reasoning a bit.
@birdup.snaildown thanks for your true thoughts, keep that going always. Hope you’re well and set for a restful weekend.
