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Why was I angry while rolling?

lakersfan

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Hi guys, I'm new here and fairly new to mind altering substances aside from marijuana and alcohol. Just wanted some experienced users to explain a few things to me. And sorry if this is too long....

So 2 weeks ago, me and 2 friends took molly together at an apartment. They are both experienced but it was my first time. Here's my estimated timeline of how I felt.

10:30 - took .2 but didn't feel anything.
11:30 - took another .3
12:30 - started feeling it but it was very mild.
1:00 - Still very mild, so I took another .3
1:10 - ROLLING HARD!

This was supposed to be really good stuff so my friends were surprised at how I managed .8 my first time. My eyes were wiggling, my neck was about to break from the music, and I also started hallucinating while my friend was driving me home. Without a doubt, one of the best nights of my life. But I did feel depressed while trying to sleep. The depression lasted for about 2 hours and I had an afterglow for the next two days.

So this saturday, we met up again and decided to roll. I picked up 1.5 grams but only took .4 as I had work in the morning. I was surprised at how quickly it hit me compared to last time since it was from the same batch. I began to feel it in only 20 minutes. I popped it at midnight and had work at 7 am. I did not expect my work to be packed on father's day, but it was definitely the busiest day since I started working there. I began to sweat, felt like I wanted to throw up, and my eyes were baggy from being tired. When the 3 hour rush had finally ended, I asked my boss if I could go home. She said that I looked sick and gave me the go ahead. So as I'm driving home, my tiredness quickly turn into horniness. I used to love watching porn on weed and wondered what it would be like on molly. So as soon as I got home, I took a third of what I had left (estimated as they were rocks and I didn't have a scale) and started feeling it in 20 minutes. I peaked for 30 minutes and rolled for another hour. I immediately went to bed and had a good rest.

When I woke up, I expected to feel tired or depressed but I felt amazingly refreshed. I woke up at 10 am to drive my mom to work. We got into a fight during the car ride and I got really really angry. I cussed her out and she told me to pack my stuff and leave. At this point I knew I messed up. I was still angry on the ride home but I decided to call her and apologize. At this point, I was really down on myself so I decided that I was going to take half of what I had left. I took it and started feeling it in 30 minutes. The euphoria lasted for only 10 minutes and then I started getting really angry. I remember reading about serotonin syndrome and thought I had developed this. As I was listening to music, my head started becoming really hot and I thought my brain was going to explode. I imagined it like a smoking car engine. I took off my headphones and got on my bed in a fetal position and started telling myself how stupid I was for doing molly 3 times in a row in only 2 days. I started punching my bed and was freaking out, thinking that I messed up my brain forever and that my life was over. I decided to watch something funny on Netflix to lighten my mood but I lost concentration and couldn't figure out how to start Netflix on my XBox. I gave up and decided to go for a walk. I walked to my basement and started pacing back and forth while trying to tell myself everything was going to be okay. All of a sudden, I heard my dogs bark and I figured my dad was home so I quickly ran upstairs. When he came in though, I decided to talk to him and felt a lot better. I no longer felt angry but just really chill. So here are my questions.

Why did the molly take so long to kick in the first time I tried it?

Was the anger from my 3rd roll because I was angry before I took it, because I had little to no serotonin left in my brain, or because I was by myself?

I read online that serotonin syndrome comes about when you mix two things together. Is it safe to take 5 htp?

I feel completely normal right now, as if I had never taken molly once during the weekend, but I took it 3 times and only a few hours ago I thought I was ruined for life. My diet for the past two days consisted of just vitamin water and a little bit of watermelon. Will I start getting a hangover tomorrow?

Btw, I will never roll multiple days in a row again and probably won't roll for at least a couple months, if ever. Thanks guys.
 
your stuff was rubbish. the amounts you are describing are ridiculously large for a noob which makes me think it was either cut to rubbish or some other substance being passed off as mdma. did you test the mystery substance?

welcome to bluelight :)
 
How can I get it tested? I still have a little bit left over. It wasn't a powder or in a pill, but just rocks. I just put the designated amount in my mouth and swallowed with water. My friends convinced me that I had a really high tolerance but the amounts they were taking seemed a little high as well. One of them took .2, and .3 later on while the other guy took .7 at once. The former was rolling all night and the latter said his tolerance was high from frequent use over the years.
 
ez test kit

just because you have rock doesnt mean shit im afraid. you can never judge a book by its cover.

do some research on bk-mdma or methylone. there is a search engine in the top right of your page. that will bring up a lot of threads relating to bk-mdma.

if you got decent mdma you will not want more than 150mg being a noob and without tolerance.
 
Hmm, I actually don't want to buy anything online as my parents might check what it is if they see the package before me. They're nosy. but is it possible to get any test kits at Walmart or something? Maybe I could take a urinating test and see what's in my system?
 
You need to do some proper research in future.

Your friends sound like a couple of clowns. Give you .2 as a starter dose is kinda large in itself, but to then have you take .3 is poor judgement and reckless. Maybe they knew how bad your stuff was, if it was even MDMA.

Buy a test kit.
 
Hmm, I actually don't want to buy anything online as my parents might check what it is if they see the package before me.

This is not a good enough reason to eat untested white powders. See if you can get it shipped to a friend or something, there's no legal danger in a test kit. Not knowing for sure what drugs you put into your body, however, IS dangerous.

but is it possible to get any test kits at Walmart or something? Maybe I could take a urinating test and see what's in my system?

Afraid not. If you don't know what you took then it's too late to find out.

Yeah, your anger/moodiness was almost certainly caused by serotonin depletion due to excessive MDMA use, not to mention the fact that you'd hardly eaten for two days (hunger leads to anger!). In the future, put 1-3 months between rolls to avoid damaging your serotonin system. You should also get yourself a milligram scale to properly weigh your dose.
 
My guess is that it wasn't pure mdma 'Molly', with the amts. that you took you would've been flying super high, everyone is right, only way to really know for sure what it was was to test the substance. 'Moonrocks' can really be about anything, I could rock up sugar if I had the right ingredients, but alot of 'dealer's' now are passing bk-mdma(methylone) off as molly as well, because it gives similar effects and is ALOT cheaper to buy in bulk. Do some research on that chemical, and see if maybe that's what you got? But you'll NEVER know for sure unless you test it out, go to dancesafe or eztest, to buy one, very cheap and WELL worth it, seriously can save your life! And yes, you should NEVER rollover than say once every 1-3 months, with 3 months being the best to keep all the 'magic' and to limit any damage to your brain, neurotransmitter's. do a little research on the drugs you take, and can save you in the long run!
 
Read back your story. You took a hideous amount of MDMA, then did some more, and then did some more.

You took it when you had go to work, like an idiot, whilst still basically under the influence. Poor idea.

You had an arguement where you got threatened to get thrown out, while you're on a comedown. When I'm hungover, let alone on a comedown, I will rip anybody's head off who gives me shit.

Then you tripped yourself out, self diagnosed and exaggerated your own problems, making them worse.

I don't wana sound like a dick mate, but work it out. Don't take drugs when you have shit to do the next day. Let alone that, try reducing your dose by 5-8x... Read up around the forums, stay safe.
 
I know I should have mentioned this before but I specifically remember one of them saying that it was MMDA. I didn't think much of it at the time but I can't seem to find anything on it while searching bluelight. Is this the bk-MDMA you guys are talking about? I'm also starting to question my friendship with these guys. One of them is my former co-worker who I actually disliked but hung out with after he wanted to introduce me to new drugs (so far we did cocaine once and "molly" twice). The other guy was his friend that I've only seen during those 2 "molly" experiences. I'm starting to think that they're using me in a way and taking advantage of the fact that I know little to nothing about drugs, possibly ripping me off. But maybe I'm just thinking too much. I remember the guy I just met saying it was some of the best shit he ever had and that it was hangover free. I had a mild hangover but more of an afterglow the first time I did it .8 in one day. This time, however, I have no hangover whatsoever by doing around 1.2 grams in a span of 36 hours.

And I will buy that test kit soon and let you guys know what came of it. Thanks for all the info.
 
If you keep on using mdma like this it will come back and give you a real beating. Never do more than 400mg in a night. Even that Is a lot. And wait at least one month between use. Anything more and you will fry your bain.
I've been using mdma for almost a year, and trust me, you do not want to do to much. It will hurt. A normal dose of good quality mdma is 80-120mg.
Heck, I've been floored from doses as low as 150mg before. If you take that much and barely feel anything then it's an unclean product or not mdma at all. Anything above 200mg should leave a person with little to no tolerance floored.
 
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