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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Why shouldn't I plug Lorazepam?

It's very effective, especially in you don't want to inject, or have something with low oral bioavailability or that can't be injected.
 
Droppersneck said:
Im sorry but in the name of HR if you have resorted to sticking things in your butt you need to take a long hard look at yourself IMO
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IMO there's a huge amount of harm reduction to plugging something if you're an iv'r especially if its something like a pill.
For the sake of not arguing, keep your opinion and let's leave it at that please.
 
Droppersneck said:
Im sorry but in the name of HR if you have resorted to sticking things in your butt you need to take a long hard look at yourself IMO
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Fuck, you posted before I could post so my shit got all fucked up! Grrr! >:(

It could possibly be that Lorazepam has no bioavailability that is appreciable higher than orally taking it. But what matters is the fact that I think it's going to work better. Because I believe it will work better, it's going to. For all I know, it may not work better. But the fact that it's possible it does work better is what makes me believe it will work better which inturn - makes it work better.

You see? It's all a mind game. I'm totally aware it's a mind game too - but that doesn't matter. Even though I'm aware of what's going on, that doesn't change the fact that I think it may work better. Which ultimately means - it will work better. You dig?

I hope so, because when this half hit of acid wares off, I'm sure my understanding of the world will be reduced to absolutely zero.
 
I never claimed it was, if you read my earlier post I claimed that if its like clonazepam then it's soluble in lipids, which can be absorbed rectally
 
Droppersneck said:
Well his choices are either butt, oral, or sublingual. I was trying to steer him to the least harmful.
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But there isn't harm involved. That's the point. Even if it's 1% more harmful than oral administration, but it gets me higher, then who cares? All we care about is the high, and it's not like I'm gonna die a sudden death. I'm taking all the precautions, I'm making it as safe as I can. Therefore, there's no reason why I shouldn't do it.

With that being said, does anyone know if Lorazepam actually is soluble in vegetable oil? Or castor oil? I'd really, really, like to know.
 
SwampFox56 said:
But there isn't harm involved. That's the point. Even if it's 1% more harmful than oral administration, but it gets me higher, then who cares? All we care about is the high, and it's not like I'm gonna die a sudden death. I'm taking all the precautions, I'm making it as safe as I can. Therefore, there's no reason why I shouldn't do it.

With that being said, does anyone know if Lorazepam actually is soluble in vegetable oil? Or castor oil? I'd really, really, like to know.
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Im thinking mental health wise here.
 
Anger And Rage said:
Again, if its like clonazepam, then yes, I believe it to be soluble in vegetable oil.
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Also, just so people know - if you use vegetable oil - don't add any water to the solution. The water just clumps together, fucking up the whole solution. I really should of fucking known better, oil doesn't like water. Conversely, water doesn't like oils. Basic chemistry really and yet, I had a brain fart and totally did what I shouldn't of.

Fuck me. Fuck my life.
 
even if it does'nt mix then whats wrong with that? if ypu use the stack and draw method which is just taking the syringe apart and putting your pills in there, put the syringe back in and push all the way to the bottom when it meets the pills and draw up some oil, water, or whatever the fuck you're gonna draw up and push through. unless it gets clogged then its gonna go in your ass regardless. or am i wrong?

(That will not be tolerated.) -Psychedelic Jay
 
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Why would u plug it if the bio availability is much higher oral, and btw if you did a little more research u should find that lorazepam is unsuitable for rectal use. U could make it work via some kind of mixture with other compounds.. but why bother ? I personally would just eat them or take them SL because that's just the way you have to take'm :-)
 
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Roofie said:
Why would u plug it if the bio availability is much higher oral, and btw if you did a little more research u should find that lorazepam is unsuitable for rectal use. U could make it work via some kind of mixture with other compounds.. but why bother ? I personally would just eat them or take them SL because that's just the way you have to take'm :-)
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Because it get absorbed instantly and the bioavailability is around 5% higher than oral. So not only to you get that extra 5%, but it hits you all at once, instead of you slowly coming up because the substance is getting absorbed slowly.

When you plug (if the pill is completely dissolved before you plug) there is nearly no come up. One second you're totally sober and then the next second....bam! You're high as shit!
 
SwampFox56 said:
Because it get absorbed instantly and the bioavailability is around 5% higher than oral. So not only to you get that extra 5%, but it hits you all at once, instead of you slowly coming up because the substance is getting absorbed slowly.

When you plug (if the pill is completely dissolved before you plug) there is nearly no come up. One second you're totally sober and then the next second....bam! You're high as shit!
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Yea man i tottaly get what u mean but I, personally, myself wouldn't find that extra instant 'lorazepam' vagueness worth it. I strongly doubt that u would be high as a kite in like 'BAM'. It'l take at least 2 minutes to fully get to it's peak and if were talking oral terms that would be something around ten minutes with a little les 'BAM' like u said for urself. I really don't like putting things in my ass like u could imagine so if im plugging rectally it would be a substance that 's worth it in terms of the extra potency that gives a whole other dimension to the drug itself, LSD for example.. not a simple benzo in low dosage.. (I really like them tho) but well.. Opinions differ ;)
 
it can be done google it you might find something but i don't imagine it would get you were you need as they have a very high oral bioavailability already
 
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