Why Prescription Ecstasy or LSD Could Happen Much Sooner Than You Think

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If a growing phalanx of scientists get their way, prescriptions for psychedelic drugs could be yours within 10 years.

June 24, 2011

Let's say an abuse-ridden childhood has left you with PTSD that sparks panic whenever you hear shouts, even on TV. Or let's say a bad accident has saddled you with crippling anxiety and chronic pain. Now let's say that you could ease -- or even cure -- these woes with prescription psiloscybin. Prescription ecstasy. Prescription LSD.

If a growing phalanx of scientists get their way, those prescriptions could be yours within 10 years. Research into the medical benefits of psychedelic drugs is booming. An April conference on the subject at Great Britain's University of Kent featured lectures on such topics as "Ketamine Psychotherapy" and "Ayahuasca in the Contemporary World."

Leading this wave is the Boston-based Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), whose executive director Rick Doblin spoke at that conference. MAPS researchers have spent 15 years conducting international clinical trials whose results indicate that LSD and psilocybin counteract depression and anxiety and are effective pain-management tools while MDMA (ecstasy) conquers fear. Just this month, the Israeli Ministry of Health approved a new MAPS study using MDMA to treat PTSD.

"Time is on our side," Doblin says. "The world is full of aging baby boomers who are looking forward to psychedelic retirement and psychedelic hospice.

"They had psychedelic experiences in their youth that were useful to them. They gave up the drugs for family and career. Now they're thinking back to those valuable experiences and they want to get re-engaged."

cont at
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/15139...r_lsd_could_happen_much_sooner_than_you_think
 
This is a step in the right direction...even better would be for anyone who proves their responsibility or necessity for their use. As in either if you need it medically or you can prove you can handle the experience; proof being knowledge of the effects, no mental illness that a psychedelic could worsen, etc.
 
Greattt. Even though i dont need them for medical purposes i bet if they start using them as medicine there will be more quality products to be found on the street.

Kinda like with medical marijuana. Its hard to even find mids now but you can get some of the dankest bud ever from like 3 people down the road.
 
haha this is awesome, too bad I don't believe in the current restrictions and I self medicate with psychedelics as I please. Everyone should do the same.
 
Just this month, the Israeli Ministry of Health approved a new MAPS study using MDMA to treat PTSD.

^yeah! :D

psychedelic hospice

This kind of thing interests me. I don't know if taking psyches right before death is something I'd necessarily want to do, but I think that the market for this would be great. Let's hope for this one!
 
Why Prescription Ecstasy or LSD Could Happen Much Sooner Than You Think....

Let's say an abuse-ridden childhood has left you with PTSD that sparks panic whenever you hear shouts, even on TV. Or let's say a bad accident has saddled you with crippling anxiety and chronic pain. Now let's say that you could ease -- or even cure -- these woes with prescription psiloscybin. Prescription ecstasy. Prescription LSD.

If a growing phalanx of scientists get their way, those prescriptions could be yours within 10 years. Research into the medical benefits of psychedelic drugs is booming. An April conference on the subject at Great Britain's University of Kent featured lectures on such topics as "Ketamine Psychotherapy" and "Ayahuasca in the Contemporary World."

Leading this wave is the Boston-based Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), whose executive director Rick Doblin spoke at that conference. MAPS researchers have spent 15 years conducting international clinical trials whose results indicate that LSD and psilocybin counteract depression and anxiety and are effective pain-management tools while MDMA (ecstasy) conquers fear. Just this month, the Israeli Ministry of Health approved a new MAPS study using MDMA to treat PTSD.

"Time is on our side," Doblin says. "The world is full of aging baby boomers who are looking forward to psychedelic retirement and psychedelic hospice.

"They had psychedelic experiences in their youth that were useful to them. They gave up the drugs for family and career. Now they're thinking back to those valuable experiences and they want to get re-engaged."

But this isn't about ex-hippies seeking free highs. Rather, it's about mainstreaming these drugs, which MAPS does "by focusing on medical uses, which in our culture is the most likely way to create new legal contexts, because there is a love affair with medicine in this culture. There's a constant interest in whatever's the latest from the scientific lab."

It's not about money. Costing nearly nothing to manufacture, "these aren't the kind of drugs that you need to take every day for the rest of your life." Instead, it's about using cutting-edge technology to prove what millions around the world have been saying for thousands of years: This stuff gets to your head.

As a teenager in the early 1970s, Doblin first learned that psychedelics were being used to enhance art, spirituality and psychology."Then it all got shut down."Those damn hippie freaks.

"People using psychedelics had accidents and did stupid things and ended up dying or going nuts. A bunch of famous people had extremely idealistic views that weren't particularly practical and weren't particularly patient. Timothy Leary and his ilk were making exaggerated claims, saying that if you do psychedelics you're more enlightened than others; if you do psychedelics you're better than others. One of that era's biggest mistakes was Leary saying turn on, tune in, drop out."

Richard Nixon called Timothy Leary the most dangerous man in America. Hello, backlash. Hello, War on Drugs.

"The government came out with its own exaggerated claims, saying that if you took these drugs you'd have deformed babies and brain-cell death. We now know that it isn't true, but back then it launched this huge cultural clash. You might say society had a really bad trip."

Research to the rescue. High-tech brain scans reveal that psilocybin inhibits blood flow in parts of the brain that regulate sensory input. Less blood flow means less regulation. Flooded with perceptions, a psilocybinized brain can help PTSD patients reprogram their fears, Doblin says. New tools also provide new insight into LSD's ego-dissolving "catharsis effect." And the ecstasy chemistry: MDMA reduces blood flow in the fear-processing amygdala while increasing blood flow in the prefrontal cortex, which facilitates our ability to put things into context.

"With MDMA, the fear circuitry is reduced," Doblin explains. This helps PTSD patients remember and re-examine long-buried aspects of their traumas. Aided by MDMA, "these memories don't immediately go straight to fear." Say you were traumatized by a bat-wielding, red-hatted assailant. Under MDMA, "the neural pathways connecting bats, red hats and fear are not so strong." Recontextualized in an MDMA-activated prefrontal cortex, triggers lose their power -- sometimes forever, he says.

"Under the influence of MDMA, people can make emotional changes that persist after the MDMA is out of their systems." On MDMA, "you operate on this much smoother level, and then you lose it -- but not all of it. You get so much material from that experience, which you can learn to integrate."

This doesn't mean you can recover by hitting a few raves. A key theme of the medical-psychedelics movement is that it's medical. These drugs are so strong and long-lasting that, for clinical use, Doblin says they must be administered in "a safe, supportive, controlled setting" overseen by professionals.

In one MAPS study, 10-hour LSD sessions took place in a medical office. Guided by a psychiatrist and a nurse, patients being treated for severe anxiety lay with their eyes shut, listening to music they had chosen for this purpose. According to a MAPS prospectus, each patient was encouraged to focus "introspectively on his or her sense of self and life-history in order to increase the psychological insights mediated by the LSD treatment." The nurse and psychiatrist would sometimes "use physical touch, such as holding hands." These drug sessions were followed by non-drug sessions in which patients discussed their drug experiences.

In a successful psychedelic therapy session, Doblin says, "there are times when the patient gets extremely lighthearted. You could have laughter. You could have joy. It's like a roller-coaster ride. You could have beautiful memories that give you the strength to go down to difficult memories, then come back to the surface and go back down there again, to a different level, hours later."

In old-school therapy, "it's the analyst who figures out your problems and tells you what your insights should be. But if these insights are disconnected from your emotions, it won't work." With psychedelics, by contrast, "the emotional connection is immediate and personal." Analysts can help you sort it out, "but it's an experience of yourself. The drug has simply given you a window onto yourself."

"There is a need for these substances," says Doblin, who along with his colleagues sees psychedelics as a powerful alternative or at least adjunct to SSRIs and, in the case of pain management, opiates. What's the difference between Zoloft and ecstasy? Legality. In other words: the FDA. MAPS submits its findings to the agency, which Doblin hopes "will put science before politics.

"The main problem with the drug war is the concept that there are good drugs and bad drugs," when what's actually good or bad "is the relationship between the person and the drug, and the context in which the drug is taken."

For instance, naysayers can claim "that MDMA is a drug of abuse and since people with PTSD have a high incidence of drug abuse, they shouldn't be given MDMA. But people with PTSD have a high incidence of drug abuse because they haven't been able to deal with painful emotions that they abuse drugs to escape." If those emotions could be processed via MDMA therapy, "their drive to abuse drugs would be reduced.

"We want to clarify that drugs of abuse can be used well. But the government is still too wedded to the drug war."

Source:
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/15139...ould_happen_much_sooner_than_you_think?page=1


I read the whole thing with a huge smile on my face =D I hope these guys are right.....
 
I can pretty much sum up all of my feelings on this entire topic with just this...
Society is silly.
It is very true that these drugs are highly abused, and can be unsafe.
But it is just as true that they can really help people psychologically.
What bothers me is that because these drugs were banned out of fear because knowlage of them was far and few in between, that initial feeling had stuck around in a good majority of societies minds. It really bothers me that these drugs are so easily looked down upon. People are biased mostly because they are labeled "illegal" they don't take the time to learn about the positive effects they could have.
Doctors and psychologists know the potential these drugs can have when using them wisely as tools in their profession. And I hope more people will see that and begin to look more into the good of these drugs. And see that although they have a bad rep, they were just never given the chance.
I fully understand why these drugs are still illegal. They are for good reason.
Basically what I really want people to understand is that knowlage is key.
 
Great article Unbreakable!

Alexander Shulgin, Re discovered MDMA which was first invented by I think Merck in 1914. It was patented but languished- on the shelf- it was initially conceptualized as an intermediate probaly to synthesize medicines or perfumes/ flavoring agents.

Shulgin became its God father, apparently introduced to the substance through a graduate student. He saw the enormous potentially for psychotherapy in the 60s. Through the 70s up to 1985 it enjoyed widespread use in mariage counseling, PTSD, and a number of other applications through a network of underground psychotherapists. Some glowing reports stated that years of psychotherapy could be condenced in one or a few sessions. Shulgin was vareful to keep this compound and others like the 2Cs secret until he released PIKAL- he had learned from Leary's mistake. He wasn't interested in the limelight but carefully avoided MDMA getting on the LEO/ journalistic radar.

Unfortunately- but fortunately for the masses- MDMA began to be marketed- mostly to rich or uber hip or new agers in Europe and the USA. In Dallas, though and enterprising individual realized the profit potential. He originally was going to call the substance empathy but thought the term exctacy had greater marketing appeal. The Nexus of E use was a Dallas Club called the Stark. All kinds of people were brought to gether who never would mix- like frat boys and sorority girls, cowboy boot wearing redneck- line dacing types, hip Dallas scensters, ect...all partying together in harmony by the ego dissolution/ empathy MDMA causes. In the therapeutic community it was called ADAM.

At the time MDMA was completely legal in the USA (outlawed in the UK in 77' by a mini analogue act dealing with substituted phenylethalmines. At the stark- college students were using their crdit cards to by E across the bar openly. This was reminiscent of 2-CB (nexus) that was being sold at a smartshop in 93-94 at a rave I went to. I am kicking myself b/c I dropped strong acid and even though I knew about this material from PIKHAL- was frying to hard so didn't get any. It was specifically scheduled in 94' despite the analogue act. In 1985, may, about 20 years from the date LSD was outlawed, MDMA became schedule I despite testimony at its congressional hearing to put it into schedule III. Finally Shulgin risked his liberty and reputation to bring information of his many discoveries- potenily therapeutic tools- to the masses by publishing his book- motivated more by altruism than greed.

LSD was discovered in Switzerland during WWII, I by Albert Hoffman, I believe near the border with Lichtenstein. The US government experimented with it, particularly the CIA in the 50s. Despite adverse effects- there was no talk of scheduling it. It was during one of these experiments at The VA in Menlo Park, that the Stanford University (I believe Grad lit or poetry student) was turned on by the government and he turned it on to his friends first in Palo Alto, then in the Santa Cruz mountains were his house was in Beautiful La Honda- in the hill/ mountain community behind Stanford were he had a commune. He had Hells Angeles come over who were peaceful- like the effect of E summer of 88' on British football (soccer) hooligans. Then he took his LSD of legendary quality (by then supplied by the late Owsley) on tour through "acid tests"- the 60s veersion of raves were the Dead were the house band. It started with the first one in San Jose at a guy named big Nig's house. Then it traveled throughout the bay area, making it to the large stadium the Cow palace. This stuff is all documented in electric cool aid acid test Kessy and his Merry Pranksters met Leary and Kessey though he was a kook.

But the profile of acid was high- it catalyzed several movements but a crusade was waged by the government leading ultimately to the repressive crackdowns in the 90s were people were getting 10 year sentences for 10 hits of acid.

Now hopefully they'll listen to the research not legislate by hysteria, special interests, and puritanical beliefs that pervade the US concerning mind altering substances- recognizing that these subtances might be helpful (like Marinol (THC in a pill), and Xyrem in the case of GHB as a treatment for narcolepsy-were I believe its schedule III- otherwise I believe its schedule I in the US.
 
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Yeatesa good post- although i would say that alot of drs are unfortunately brainwashed on the topic.

Alot of indications were found for LSD in the 50s and 60s. One was a treatment for alcoholism at doses of 500 ug. Interestingly, Bill W, cofounder of AA took the drug after years sober probably at a high dose, with his wife to investigate its power to cure alcoholism and induce fundamental, vital spiritual experiences.;) I believe that Aldous Huxley was present as well.

Though this is not widely published or discussed in AA or its literature. Back then it was tooted as a potential miracle cure for alcoholism.

To quote the article:

"We want to clarify that drugs of abuse can be used well. But the government is still too wedded to the drug war."

This is the greatest obstacle in my opinion. People have to overcome 100 years of brainwashing/ It started with opium ordinances and nationally w when wides spread opium use in the new American Territory, the Phillipines, and pressure from women temperance societies and missionary groups conviced Teddy Roosevelt to appoint the first "opium commisioner" in 1908- the first incarnation of what would much latter become the Drug Czar and conveyene the first Opium conference in Shanghai. A few years latter under the Wilson administration came the Harrison Act. Then Alcohol was illegalized but after the repeal of prohibition, they held on to the drug war so all those treasury agents wouldn't get laid off. The 37 MJ tax act was an idea by media mogul Hearst to the head of the Burea of Narcotics, Harry Ass-Slinger to secure greater funding for his agency during the great depression. Point is- drug prohibition is big business for producers and government officials, as well as other special interesst groups.
 
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The biggest business that the war creates is an illicit one-one in which taxes are not collected and people with possible other illegal interests profit. If drugs were legal, they would have regulations on quality as well as being sold in stores. We would know everytime what we were taking and how much of it...instead we kind of just walk in the dark about the origins of our drugs. Thats just one example of course, there are many.
 
I wonder what the ug of prescription LSD would be? Or the mg of prescription Psilocybin or MDMA?

I wonder as well.
Presumably, it would depend on the individual's weight.
They tend to go low in psychotherapy, at least recently.
I appreciate low-dose LSD and mushrooms experiences, and I can see how they might be very useful.
However, low-dose MDMA seems like a waste to me.
 
Would be great to finally have some REAL antidepressants on the market instead of the zombie drugs we have now! MDMA, LSD and other psychedelics promote feeling while SSRIs and anti-psychotics do just the opposite: numbing emotions until thought, feeling and personality are subdued into oblivion. Not exactly a healthy way to go through life.
 
Would be great to finally have some REAL antidepressants on the market instead of the zombie drugs we have now! MDMA, LSD and other psychedelics promote feeling while SSRIs and anti-psychotics do just the opposite: numbing emotions until thought, feeling and personality are subdued into oblivion. Not exactly a healthy way to go through life.



Ive been telling people this for years about SSRI's. They are bad for the human mind & it would be awesome if they could prescribe MDMA & LSD (in selective situations)
 
Ive been telling people this for years about SSRI's. They are bad for the human mind & it would be awesome if they could prescribe MDMA & LSD (in selective situations)

I know somebody who actually rolls almost everyday. They feel normal when they roll. When they take a few they get high but on a low dose they just feel normal. This is for Bipolar / depression. it works. They've been doing it for a few years without major side effects !
 
I am a MALE who suffered from a severe eating disorder. My body was rotting away and when I looked at myself in the mirror I saw a fat fuck.

On MDMA one day I looked in the mirror and saw the truth, that I was dying.

Years later I found myself diagnosed with PTSD, and it, and the help of a trusted girl friend, helped be beat the disorder..

MDMA is great medicine.


........but I think mescaline is even better
 
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