Why is there a PH obsession?

theartofwar

theartofwar

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Why is this forum swamped w/PH threads ? I understand the legal issue but you've got to be kidding me with that as an excuse. Don't tell me people stumbled on bluelight and aren't afraid to get a bit messy with buying things lol. And i can't believe many people have a needle phobia, cmon now. It seems for every 10 threads about a PH there is one person just running 500mg of test a week for a first cycle, stop shutting yourselves down for no damn good!!! Peace, good luck, lift big eat big - GET BIG.
 
If I had it my way, we wouldn't be discussing PHs here. If anything, another section/forum for them would be a nice idea.

/V
 
theartofwar said:
Why is this forum swamped w/PH threads ? I understand the legal issue but you've got to be kidding me with that as an excuse. Don't tell me people stumbled on bluelight and aren't afraid to get a bit messy with buying things lol. And i can't believe many people have a needle phobia, cmon now. It seems for every 10 threads about a PH there is one person just running 500mg of test a week for a first cycle, stop shutting yourselves down for no damn good!!! Peace, good luck, lift big eat big - GET BIG.
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its more than a needle phobia

it is that the Gear you buy on the streets or in the gym can be either bunk or just land you in jail. Most Ph users don't want to either get ripped off or end up in jail. Most Ph users take it as a supplement and not as a steroid as it is totally legal to buy no no laws are being broken.
 
Lack of access to medical grade testosterone, long-drive to Mexico, expense....

Ive been selectively scammed by a company that advertises on various bodybuilding boards, whose operators are generally in on the scam.

Ive bought real, medical grade testosterone in tijuana, but its expensive and now the political climate is prohibitive....

Yes, I could extract some trenbolone from those pellets, but i dont want to run a progestin with tons of side-effects....
 
So long in the short (correct me if im wrong) - People have bad sources , the UG labs they use are not very reliable - comparing PH's to steroids is a discussion that really has no purpose if both are available, there is no comparison imo. I've been scammed it comes with the business, but I'd much rather be scammed once in awhile get real gear then run everything 17aa under the sun for 1/4 the results of like .. anavar - let's be honest, you can get good gains w/some of these PH - I'm not trying to down them. If you are really considered about landing in jail... well that's fair enough, you're life and safety first I understand. But these PH's are a far cry from almost any legit AAS - I'm just trying to point out that the EASY way is to grab what you can legally and get some gains here and there. The vast majority of AAS have been tried / studied for years and you have a good shot at running a much healthier cycle, with significantly better gains than if you were continually go with the PH's. I'm not trying to down anyone here, not singling out any posts, I just noticed it and was rather shocked about the whole deal. Wish you all the best - Victor, making a PH forum would really not be a bad idea (or sub forum etc) if that's something you can do.

Negrogesic - I'm sorry to hear the progestin sides of tren are tough on you, I've always loved my heifer fina/syno combo myself mate. best of luck bro.
 
Never tried trenbolone or other progestins, but the side-effects seem nasty....

Mexico is a good source for human grade (sometimes american made) testosterone, but next time i go I will have to haggle them down.

They were charging something like $20 for pre-loaded 250mg syringes of testosterone, which is too expensive. I didn't shop around though or try to haggle. I bet the prices have gone down in Tijuana now that there are fewer tourists (or perhaps just the opposite).
 
personally I wouldn't risk mexico - most of there gear is real shitty now anyway, I remember a lot of my bro's going to mexico 10+ years ago and getting great stuff, theres this one place in tijuana that was like, literally just walls of gear =D - but those days are past. Nowadays it's either a good domestic or risk custom snagging it - worst case scenario there they just send you a letter. Unless you are bringing in bulk powders, my boy got in some serious shit for bringing in bulk EQ powders, and when they got him he had that, tons of tren ace from fina and he was yielding 17.5 grams of propionate per 20 gram cart of synovex! Needless to say he is on an iron vacation :(. I don't know how many people in the steroid section here dabble w/rec drugs, but it seems ironic that steroids are so taboo to take the chance - again I mean no disrespect but it just seemed odd to me that so many people turn to the PH's!! Esp since the only one I had true success w/was M1T and that didn't hold up that great to good var.
 
theartofwar said:
worst case scenario there they just send you a letter. Unless you are bringing in bulk powders, my boy got in some serious shit for bringing in bulk EQ powders, and when they got him he had that, tons of tren ace from fina and he was yielding 17.5 grams of propionate per 20 gram cart of synovex! Needless to say he is on an iron vacation :(. .
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You answered your own question. Also The worst that can happen is not merely a customs letter. The way the Fed's show units of makes it very easy to get possession with intent to distribute for just an average cycle.

That is why people use ph's they have shit going on in life and don't want to risk it for some silly gear.
 
PHs are legal and dont require a needle

And they yeild results.

People will continue to use them for those reasons, despite the fact they are more harmful to the body then steroids themselves
 
Bleh, it's a shame isn't it ? Vast majority of PHs are now 17aa - and toxicity is off the charts. Yet gettin some suspension is the same as heroin in the eyes
of the law
 
Jan 4th 99% of PH's will be a class c narcotic in the USA. I own a supplement shop and got the DEA email myself...LOTS OF PHs are as good or better than D-bol or oral winny,etc....most of the owners of these companies are x-steroid dealers cashing in on a new hustle.l...........

JJ
 
BigJJ said:
Jan 4th 99% of PH's will be a class c narcotic in the USA. I own a supplement shop and got the DEA email myself...LOTS OF PHs are as good or better than D-bol or oral winny,etc....most of the owners of these companies are x-steroid dealers cashing in on a new hustle.l...........

JJ
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Which PH's would you compare to the strength of dianabol or winstrol ?
 
Any SD clones would compare to D-bol....I-Force's Protodrol or Dymethazine would compare to Winny......

JJ
 
Better there be information somewhere than not, though.... Rather peeps were getting decent PCT and liver protection advice than just simply following the directions on the back of the bottle.
 
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