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Stimulants Why is "Molly" and MDMA so toxic?

I was speaking to another mod recently about my MDMA use when I was younger. I have a really weird drug metabolism system and certain drugs metabolise super quick. I have taken up to (stupid number) of pills in a night of mdma. They usually lasted an hour and half when I took them, I double dropped when they wore off and it would have lasted shorter then triple dropped etc. I was always able to go to sleep with ease at the end of the night whilst my friends partied into the next day. I guess it would be pretty interesting to see how mdma is processed through my system. The pills were always tested and always pure mdma. My friends all had the usual effects from a really good pill.

After a heavy weekend with lots of pills taken the worst I ever had was a while of electric shocks but that was it. No depression, no come down to speak of.
 
burn out said:
Well it's way more harmful than cocaine on a per use bases, but due in part to this fact you're much more likely to use cocaine habitually. I did tons of cocaine and don't really feel any long terms from it, weed and psychedelics have had way more negative effects on me than cocaine. If I had done anywhere near that amount of MDMA, I am sure the side effects would have been devastating.

Of course cocaine does come with a greater risk of stroke or heart attack than MDMA, although sudden deaths have been associated with MDMA as well.
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MsDiz said:
I was speaking to another mod recently about my MDMA use when I was younger. I have a really weird drug metabolism system and certain drugs metabolise super quick. I have taken up to (stupid number) of pills in a night of mdma. They usually lasted an hour and half when I took them, I double dropped when they wore off and it would have lasted shorter then triple dropped etc. I was always able to go to sleep with ease at the end of the night whilst my friends partied into the next day. I guess it would be pretty interesting to see how mdma is processed through my system. The pills were always tested and always pure mdma. My friends all had the usual effects from a really good pill.

After a heavy weekend with lots of pills taken the worst I ever had was a while of electric shocks but that was it. No depression, no come down to speak of.
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MDMA seems super cool, but it is cumbersome. At least in my case, I would like to be on relatively empty stomach, have 6-10 hours for the trip and ~ 10 hours for sleep after that. Hard to do.

In terms of experience, I prefer MDMA to cocaine, alcohol, weed. At least I think so, in "theory" - used MDMA just a few times because of stated reasons.
 
I always appreciate the depth of information that come out of this forum. I think the intensity and knowlege makes for a good read. Anyway, thanks for being fired up. The only depth of information I can offer is purely anecdotal. I have done more than my share of psychedelics and stimulants. I have come to the conclusion that there are people that have the cognitive make up to handle these substances over prolonged periods of use and there are folks that are completely changed by limited use and experience. It is not just the drug that dictates the out come of use, it is how our minds hold up and process the altered sensations and bending realities. I have done some large doses of LSD and experienced a very bent realities. I have never had a bad trip but have seen them occur. The sensations of good MDMA are really intense and I get why someone might chase the physical and mental pleasure it. Just doing it at festival for 2 or 3 days kick my ass. It takes a bit of self convincing not let it sink into a dark retreat for a few days. I have met quite a few people that have a hard time not realizing these fun affects can't always be there and are only meant to be temporary. There are folks that seem to break (poor word choice maybe) with much shorter periods of use, as well as a much lower volume than myhself and most people I have known over the years. I have done MDMA in about 10 years and this brought some fun memories. Ha!
 
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