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Why is meth use looked down upon?

Put succinctly this is it. ^
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Ummm...the point there is again that meth is associated with groups that are subject to high degrees of social stigma, our perception of meth users influenced by processes of performance of cultural distinction just as much as the actual properties of the substance itself. Meth is not unique: any stimulant will condition psychosis if used at length, and any stimulant with a lengthy duration will be more likely to lend itself to lengthy binges (stimulants unfortunately appear to 'treat' the unpleasantness of their come-downs). Meth is a bit more neurotoxic than many other amphetamines, but we're not discussing significantly elevated Parkinson's risk as one reaches retirement, are we?

And if you do meth using any ROA regularly and are otherwise pretty functional, and you've been able to keep it up long-term; thank your parents for good genetics and yourself for good self control. I might be talking to no one at this point... but hey
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You're not talking with anyone who wishes to discuss with you. Our culture's stereotype of "the meth user" coupled with the quite common confirmation bias entails that we will see many visible examples of the compound's ravages as numerous other users hide their habits (or often just their choice of recreation) from judging eyes.

ebola
 
People look down upon meth users I guess because the drug is so goddamn destructive. I know people who have used meth only a year or two who look/act WAY WORSE than people who have used heroin for decades! Meth/speed users also have a tendancy to get really paranoid over nothing, which doesn't help at all. And when they do get paranoid many of them eat benzos and instead get aggressive and confused. It's just not a good combination and you don't want to be around people who use these substances frequently (those who can't handle it, that is).
 
ebola? said:
Ummm...the point there is again that meth is associated with groups that are subject to high degrees of social stigma, our perception of meth users influenced by processes of performance of cultural distinction just as much as the actual properties of the substance itself. Meth is not unique: any stimulant will condition psychosis if used at length, and any stimulant with a lengthy duration will be more likely to lend itself to lengthy binges (stimulants unfortunately appear to 'treat' the unpleasantness of their come-downs). Meth is a bit more neurotoxic than many other amphetamines, but we're not discussing significantly elevated Parkinson's risk as one reaches retirement, are we?
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I'd respectfully disagree and say that meth is unique; its own demon. Simply put: it's the hardest most cheaply available form of speed to date and it's one of the drugs where the stereotype has much more truth to it than others imo.

ebola? said:
You're not talking with anyone who wishes to discuss with you. Our culture's stereotype of "the meth user" coupled with the quite common confirmation bias entails that we will see many visible examples of the compound's ravages as numerous other users hide their habits (or often just their choice of recreation) from judging eyes.

ebola
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No doubt about that. I've said as much; acknowledging the unfair bias towards meth users.
 
^How much meth have you done?
How many users have you met and interacted with and how did those interactions weigh against your belief in the common meth user stereotype?
 
95Land said:
^How much meth have you done?
How many users have you met and interacted with and how did those interactions weigh against your belief in the common meth user stereotype?
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I've experimented several times, with high and micro doses (using a glass cigar wrap; never bought a burner). First time I did it, it almost took until the next day for me to realize i was fucked up. Interesting drug, I'm just not an uppers guy. My sober state is already pretty speedy.

I've only known a handful of regular users in my life, not close or anything. I'm in the north east US not much meth here. ummmmmm... they are fuck ups. But I don't have a good personal sample size.

So they fit the stereotype, but I never associated with them. I don't like meth but I'm not anti-meth. It just takes a strong person to use that drug responsibly.
 
I see.
I live in the NE(obviously) as well and know how rare it is. I wondered if your opinions where all based upon secondhand sources. Mainly because of all the people I've ran with here, like 2-3 have even seen actual shards. My use took place in the Midwest.
Thanks for answering.
 
To the OP:

Why is Meth use looked down upon?

Because Tweakers are fuckin weird, man!!! They are usually sweaty, smelly, toothless messes, covered in sores. Heroin addicts are at least passive (for the most part), while Meth turns people into schizophrenics and lunatics.

No offense intended, I've been known to crush some shards myself, but the truth is the truth. Meth is one of the most destructive drugs on the planet.
 
95Land said:
I know you knew. :).
Thanks. I believe my brain's mostly intact and/or I had a lot of cells to burn.
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You got out of the Midwest just in time..

Sorry, random ass Clevelander's and Kansas City people etc.. it's a beautiful part of the country and the people are polite... :)
 
Amphetamine is amphetamine no matter if it's d-amp or methamphetamine. Meth is just a more potent strong clean buzz. I LOVE my uppers crystal,MDMA,coke but the fucked up thing is that opiates have ruined my life. I can slam high grade crystal for days on end then have the power to say enough mainly because i'm not getting euphoric anymore. Basically what i'm saying it all depends on the person.
 
Meth has a well-established pattern of causing people to lose sight of reality....or maybe just not care... I think the journey from first use to insanity & addiction tends to be very fast and very common compared to other substances. I think it's just the nature of it.

I love it, I hate it, it's powerful stuff. While I don't think every single tweaker deserves a bad rap just because of their DOC, I've met enough that do, and personally felt its tug into apathy that I understand why meth is "looked down on" more so than before I'd ever tried it.
 
EarthBounded said:
I am curious as well considering Big Pharma distributes Desoxyn.
I like what HO-CHI-MING said, if you are going to use it. Ingest it.

I dont think meth would be as large of a problem if it were ingested instead of smoked or shot.
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Cat's out of the bag though. Pretty soon even slamming shards will be old school. Drug Delivery Devices are already amongst us... Minority Report-style any day..
 
ecstasyboy717 said:
Amphetamine is amphetamine no matter if it's d-amp or methamphetamine. Meth is just a more potent strong clean buzz. I LOVE my uppers crystal,MDMA,coke but the fucked up thing is that opiates have ruined my life. I can slam high grade crystal for days on end then have the power to say enough mainly because i'm not getting euphoric anymore. Basically what i'm saying it all depends on the person.
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Same here, I went on a 9 month daily meth binge and quit with no problems. Shit, I was glad to quit. Opiates on the other hand.... Just goes to show we all have different brain chemistry.
 
ecstasyboy717 said:
Amphetamine is amphetamine no matter if it's d-amp or methamphetamine. Meth is just a more potent strong clean buzz. I LOVE my uppers crystal,MDMA,coke but the fucked up thing is that opiates have ruined my life. I can slam high grade crystal for days on end then have the power to say enough mainly because i'm not getting euphoric anymore. Basically what i'm saying it all depends on the person.
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As far as I'm concerned the various amphetamines are all noticeably different. (Quality) Meth feels cleaner and doesn't make me sweat as much. Ritalin is disgusting. Adderall is amazing depending on my mood, but I mos def find it the speediest of them all. Dexedrine is nice. Vyvanse is okay. For my money I'd choose Shards or Addies. Then again, for my money I'd choose OxyMorphone/Heroin/Temazepam/Clonazepam you get it...
 
Don't get all the hype on benzos there what ever but I guess it's cuz I don't like drinking either.
And I've found that different ROA for meth have different highs.
If I were to snort it its speedier and I get really high like really tweeked biting my tounge teeth locked i talk non stop more im tweeked nd i cant control it as much propbly the ROA that will lead me to do stupid stuff.
I thnk because of the fact ur doing more at once then smoking.
But when I smoke it its a little more chill and relaxing like I take the first hit or two and all my problems go away and when I'm high a little bit of jaw locked and hitting the tounge I've also found I'm more talkative but not out of control like when I rail it like I'm aware that I'm high and I'm aware I'm more talkative so I just talk a little more then usual nd I'm usally pretty quiet but I don't talk a bunch kinda because I don't wanna come across as annoying haha but when I snort it ima talk my ass off like if I'm on e.
Smoking it seems to leave me more in control of everything I like snorting it but it burns way to much and I hate having my nose clogged fer the nxt like 3 days and my nose isn't in good shape from all the coke and pills nd rc's I've snorted.
Oral I've only done it with e nd the time I did it by itself was like 3 years ago so I don't really remember it thanks to all the e I did fucked up my memory good.
So I can't really say anything about oral and I've never iv nd don't plan on doing it.
 
Put it this way dude, someone I know tried it one weekend and over the course of 2 months developed sickening addictive tendencies. Especially when things got hard or he was angry or stressed the cravings would come on worst. Before he split town he was up to about a g a week. In just two months.

Besides being rapidly addictive if your smoking it your going to have a dry, horrid mouth before too long.

I dont like to preach but i reckon with this one if you can have a quick fling and get off thats great. If not, well, too bad.
 
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