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Why is MDMA just not as good now? (Without abuse)

also most mdma is not mdma. chemist have been finding ways to make other chemicals test positive for mdma.

yes certain health suppelments and medications can dull or even block the effects of mdma and other drugs will also dull mdma effects, such as cocaine. dont forget there is always possibilties of the product being contaminated or tampered with before you recieve it, which could ruin potency.

the problem is people try to make more money by selling a cheaper product even though a top quality product will sell better and make more money in the long run.

greed is taking over pride of quality.
 
I talked to Rick Dobbins and told him my history, he told me if I did it the magic would most likely be there, since its been over thirteen years , still remember how amazing the first time felt and second time felt

first time was oh so amazing, second time as well

from nov-january 2000 I did 5-7 pills ( I would do stupid shit like take 1/2 pills and snort them to try to make them last longer)
In may 2002 I did 10 pills at most
june 2002 five pills
one pill nov 2001
one pill jan 2002

I think some of them were fake because I definately lost the magic after about ten times of doing them. if they werent fake I just lost the magic toward the end

Id like to do them maybe once a year , but I think id benfit much more in a therapeutic setting with a psychology , for me to face some of the diffcultness ive been though in my life

maps.org (rick Dobbins) is trying to make it legal for people like me that could benefit from mdma assisted therapy
 
You can't really get that truly until MDMA-assisted psychotherapy is legal. But in my experience you can get experiences very close to what MAPS et al seem to be talking about by getting highly pure crystal MDMA (should be lab analysed), and taking it in a comfortable (home or your favourite chilled out bar) setting with your significant other and/or your closest, and I mean your absolute closest friends. That was the setting for my first three experiences and they were the most therapeutic and deeply soul enriching hours of my life. Sadly I haven't been able to achieve the same since despite identical circumstances, which is why I made the thread.
 
terarc said:
You can't really get that truly until MDMA-assisted psychotherapy is legal. But in my experience you can get experiences very close to what MAPS et al seem to be talking about by getting highly pure crystal MDMA (should be lab analysed), and taking it in a comfortable (home or your favourite chilled out bar) setting with your significant other and/or your closest, and I mean your absolute closest friends. That was the setting for my first three experiences and they were the most therapeutic and deeply soul enriching hours of my life. Sadly I haven't been able to achieve the same since despite identical circumstances, which is why I made the thread.
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there are those who still practice it but are very discreet and not easy to find

Like Dr Shulgin said after about 10 times the jaw clenching, eye twitching, and effects still appear but the magic is lost- at least thats what he believed. I believe, he used it a lot, esp testing it on himself, at the beginning , and his wife Ann used it like every weekend while writing her book it was aid, so I think we have much more science and knowledge now and they didnt really take breaks or know as much as we know now

Anyways, I like to believe if I did it after thirteen years , the magic would appear, guess the only way is to see.
how long has it been since you last did
how often hve you been taking?
have you taking a year break and tried gain?
whats your dose as well-do you do the purity test, showing how much mdma/mda/mde percent is pure? so that wuld give one better educated guess, to how pure the dose is. may need to take two pills and one after you peak? idk im not recommending it, bc thatd be crazy if you got 300 mg Netherlands Ferrari's , but if you test out your pill as weak and guessimate its 50 mgs per pill, yeah---- the answer would probably be to make sure your doing a test for purity , does that make sense?
 
I described my usage pattern earlier in the thread but essentially:

September 2013: 125mg tested MDMA crystal, no redose, good but had full stomach
September 2013 (one week later): 125mg same MDMA crystal, no redose, at t+9hrs into an LSD trip, INCREDIBLE experience
October 2013 (4 weeks from last): 140mg same MDMA crystal again, no redose, absolutely mind blowing, too strong tbh
<2 month break>
New year 2013-2014: 100mg new batch, but tested MDMA crystal, made me feel dizzy and ill, boring experience. this was the only 'tan' colour MDMA I've ever taken
<5 month break>
May 2014: 115mg tested MDMA crystal, new batch, first time in a nightclub (all previous were in a favourite bar/my flat), decent experience but started feeling depressed halfway through, made my mind feel all wobbly for a bit after (was kinda disturbing)
June 2014: 123mg tested MDMA crystal, new batch which I lab analysed as 96% pure, was in a club again, girlfriend freaked out so that might have made it bad, but it didnt feel like it had the potential of the first few experiences
July 2014: 84mg of the same analysed batch again, ok-ish experience, thinking back on it after a couple of weeks it felt really 'fake' (first time I've had this feeling)
<6 month break up to now>

That was the last time I took it, I've done low dose methylone (~80mg) twice since though. I'm thinking of waiting maybe another month or two before giving it another shot, but I might try to find some magic in MDA or an MDA/MDMA combo instead. If it's not there then I'm waiting another year, or maybe just giving up
 
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