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Why is LSD not a common adulterant of pills?

ntype said:
It would seem like a cheap substitute for MDMA! Why do you NEVER get pills 'cut' with acid?
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Why would acid be a substitute for MDMA?! Nothing a like at all. Making somebody trip for a long amount of time without them wanting to is not going to make them buy more pills 8) If people want acid, buy it, don't ever put it in my pills!
 
Real acid is not really around much in my area.

Ever since those people got busted in 98' most "acid" going around my area has been research chemicals being passed off as acid.
 
Acid is cheap as shit (if you're making it).

Basically in answer to your question...

You gotta take better care of acid than beans. By the time consumers ate it the sid would probably be no good.

I'm sure someone would do it because ppl who make beans aren't necesarily ethical. I had something that felt like acid once but not as intense. I think it was 2C-I cause that doesn't degrade like cid.
 
but if acid is harder to synth than mdma why is it cheaper?

i dont know anything about either one as far as chemistry goes, so im just curious
 
drivensnow said:
Why would acid be a substitute for MDMA?! Nothing a like at all. Making somebody trip for a long amount of time without them wanting to is not going to make them buy more pills 8) If people want acid, buy it, don't ever put it in my pills!
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I agree, but were seeing 2C substances and DOx subsance being passed as E more reguarly. When people say 'pills' they dont mean MDMA.
 
subopm420 said:
but if acid is harder to synth than mdma why is it cheaper?

i dont know anything about either one as far as chemistry goes, so im just curious
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cheaper/more available materials/'ingredients'?
 
No, LSD is harder to make, and the ingredients are just as hard, if not harder to get, than the ones for MDMA.

With LSD you can get 10,000+ doses from a gram.

With MDMA you can get about 8 doses from a gram.

So even though MDMA costs $20-40 a dose, you only get around $300 a gram tops.

With LSD, even at $4 a hit, your looking at $40,000 for a gram.

LSD is measured in micro grams, MDMA is measured in milligrams.

So even though it is much harder in every way to make LSD than it is to make MDMA, LSD is much more potent, you can make an insane amount of money, even if your only selling it for $1-2 a hit, if you have even as little as 7 grams.

Think about it.

An ounce of LSD is 280,000 hits.

At $5 a hit, that is $1,400,000.

1.4 million for an ounce!

Even if you sell it wholesale for $2.50 a hit, that is $700,000 for an ounce!

The people who got busted in '98 had over a pound of LSD.

That is tens of millions of dollars, even if sold dirt cheap.
 
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$20-$40 for a dose of mdma and $300 a gram??!?!?

more like $4 a dose and $80 for a gram of pure
 
$4 a dose in Amsterdam maybe.

Not in my neck of the woods.

People wholesale 10,000 pills for $3 a pop in Amsterdam.

So if your getting MDMA at $4 a pill I highly, highly doubt that is real MDMA, unless your friends with a chemist.
 
so the fact that you can place like a micro dot on a pill full of binders and sell it for 20 its like gettin 16 extra dollars for doing nothing, makes sense
 
That wouldn't work in england. Pills are £2 each, and when you buy more they drop as low as 50 pence.

Now a hit of acid can run you anywhere between £5-£20

....Retarded, no?
 
What was the last England pill that made you peak after taking only one? Or the last pill that gave you effects when taken in halves?
 
I've only ever come across one pill that fucked me up from just single droppin'

On average it takes 3-6 pills to get you pretty messed up, and at 50p a pill it's still a hell of a lot cheaper than most places.
 
I saw a documentary on a smuggler who bought 10,000 pills of 120mg MDMA in Amsterdam at $3 a piece.

He would pay $1,000 to orthodox Jewish priests to smuggle it to NYC, then sell it for $10 a piece wholesale.

Then he would pay them to smuggle the profits back to Amsterdam.

The chemicals are readily available, and the penalties are very lax in Amsterdam.

In the US it is a different story.

I truly pure pill of 100mg+ MDMA will get you very high.

If it takes 6 pills, those pills are cut to all shit.

600mg of pure MDMA will make you sick.

120mg of pure MDMA will get you extremely high.
 
The pills are ridiculously small, i've tested almost every pill i've ever taken and only had a small handful come up as adulterated. Most of it's just filler.
 
Amen.

Eventually the next true LSD chemist will appear on the American scene, and provide millions of hits.

MDMA is better than LSD, it is still hit or miss.

It isn't hard to make, but it is even easier to fake.
 
ntype said:
When people say 'pills' they dont mean MDMA.
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It's attitudes like that that makes pills as crap as they are. I don't see why people would take pills not expecting MDMA. Where's the fun in that? What are they wanting crap speed and a head spin?

Splatt said:
What was the last England pill that made you peak after taking only one? Or the last pill that gave you effects when taken in halves?
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Bout 2 years ago. Pills even 5 years ago were still £2 but they were very good. American pills sound just as crap to be honest yet some charge like $20?!
 
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