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Why don't chemists bother with MDA any more? v. Sighs of the reminiscent

parttime crackhead said:
Someone back me up here, MDA doses are lower than MDMA doses, aren't they?
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Nah, see my latest post.

100mg MDMA is not a "pretty strong dose" btw. Well seeing you're American. Americans are feart of MDMA for some reason. Once a year take 2mg type shit. 100mg is a below standard dose imo. 120mg is a decent amount but I still wouldn't call it strong.
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Ha. The MDMA in my neck of the woods is weighed out in 80mg increments, and not because people are scared of MDMA. It's because 80mg is a pretty decent dose.

Anyway, maybe the MDMA we have here is a bit different purity than the MDMA you guys have available, so my comment maybe aren't as relevant as I originally thought.
 
It's not a different purity, your lot just don't like to get as fucked up on MDMA as our lot for whatever reason, I'm not making this up, it's well documented all over Bluelight that Americans are lightweights when it comes to MD. Seriously, MDA vs MDMA debate aside, an 80mg pill would be considered weak.

If I bought a gram of MDMA the absolute maximum I would split it in to is 10 & that is mainly because I'm wanting to keep it reasonably calm or some of them are for birds who either can't handle their drugs or don't want to get really wasted.

Also, who weighs it out in 80mg doses? The dealer? The MDMA round here is sold in grams, then each individual does what they like with that gram.
 
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Yeah, you can get it in grams too, but it's broken up for convenience of dosing. One cap is a lighter dose, 1.5 is a strong dose, and two is a strong dose and a redose, Shulgin-style (or just one incredibly strong dose).
 
^2 80mg caps is a baseline dose, 3 would prob do for a drop at a party, maybe 4 depending on the purity of that 80mg.
 
Pegasus said:
Yeah, you can get it in grams too, but it's broken up for convenience of dosing. One cap is a lighter dose, 1.5 is a strong dose, and two is a strong dose and a redose, Shulgin-style (or just one incredibly strong dose).
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160mg is a good dose, it is not an "incredibly strong" dose. Not by anyone's standards (although it would probably have someone with zero tolerance pretty tuned to the moon). Not round here anyway, and there's nothing wrong with the purity of our MD. 80mg is bare minimum, disappointing dose. I'm with d1989 on this, 120+ is what's needed.

Just check pillreports for Europe. You'll see pills tested & the ones classed as strong are 180mg+

Can anyone else wade in on the MDA thing? I'm still convinced that Erowid is wrong.
 
Dose slightly higher for MDA.

This doesnt sound very HR, and im not being funny guys to those that disagree, but you dont take low doses of MDA to try and mimic MDMA. If you want to experience MDMA then you take MDMA, and if you want to experience MDA then you do so at a relevant dose.

I think Erowid states upto 170mgs
 
dee_dee said:
Dose slightly higher for MDA.

This doesnt sound very HR, and im not being funny guys to those that disagree, but you dont take low doses of MDA to try and mimic MDMA. If you want to experience MDMA then you take MDMA, and if you want to experience MDA then you do so at a relevant dose.

I think Erowid states upto 170mgs
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I don't think anyone was saying that Dee Dee. You've just made that bit up. All we were trying to do was get a comparative dose. Like, if it normally takes me 200mg of MDMA to get a dunt, yet it only takes you 100mg then we'd need to figure out some sort of ratio of MDA to MDMA in order for each of us to get the correct dose, no-one is saying that they are trying to get an MDMA dunt by taking lower doses of MDA. Not one person has said that as far as I can see.

All I was saying was that I thought MDA was stronger, therefore the standard dose would be lower, it seems I may have been wrong on that point though. Maybe I'm just getting that from MDA pills tending to have a lower dose, but that's possibly just to stop people tripping out like fuck in clubs.
 
Every drug has a "line dose"......I would say for mdma its between 100 - 120 for a full effect .I think at 80 its more subtle. I would say that some people like it more subtle than feeling overwhelmed.So it all depends what sort of experience you want.On mda it would depend on how many ducks you want to see in the pond.:)
 
clubberdude said:
Shit! That sounds unreal! The Horn Track by Egyptian Empire is incredible! Listening to that whilst peaking must have been unbelievable!
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LOL
I was a true believer=D
Don't get me started on my collective consciousness those raves being a connection back to our true human roots, I was a obsessive attender of raves run by the Exodus collective who although I didn't necessarily sign up to their religious view points I certainly shared allot of their spiritual beliefs.
Systems like Exodus & Spiral and many others at the time did have a wider brief than just playing a few records........but these days what I've just said are the words of a burnt out old raver and, unlike my missus you didn't get the chance to tell me to shut up and stop chatting shit half way through;)
 
LOL at some of these stories. I've deffo had some mda pills over the years, blue ps2s (common phrase in Glasgow at that time was "pure tripping oot ma nut on they ps2s") the red shaped lovehearts, white stars (best pills ever) then the windmills. most common trippyness on them was seeing loads of people fighting,shouting dancing in the streets then getting closer and what you really seen was a wheelie bin and a lampost!
 
Mailmonkey said:
80mg MDMA is not even a dose, let-alone a low one.
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I hate how online this seems to be the standard dose, that or 100mg. I remember the first time after the drought I finally got a hold of some crystal, couldn't wait to try it and took a 100mg dose. Needless to say it wasn't enough and I was really disappointed, then when I tried to redose it had just been too long since and I never got a good hit.
Thanks to all that information I was always cautious in the beginning to take an extra pill or something in case it was too much. Wasn't until my third time on actual pills that I got a proper good hit off it. I always find it takes me at least two separate doses of MDMA to get me going unless it's one big one of say 200mg+. I really prefer 150mg doses spaced out though, it's a manageable amount on the comeup without being floored but get's you started.
 
I've always believed MDA is dosed at a slightly smaller amount than MDMA, but I've never knowingly tried it so can't comment.

Agree on the MDMA though, I always split a gram into seven doses (eyeballed, so should be 140mg, but probs end up in the 120-160 range). I take that for my first dose, then halve one and top up with that. Does me just fine!
 
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