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Why doesnt oxycontin get me high?

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Samwc

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So basically, any opioid pills that i take don't have any effect on me - and sufficient amounts as well. I dont know what im doing wrong, so any help othee than to take very high doses would be appreciated. Here is an "experience" report i wrote earlier tonight to help you ubderstand my situation better.


This is an account of an experience I have with 20 mg of oxycontin, note that I was in a very good mood prior to eating the pills, and I ultimately am very skinny with a very low opiate tolerance and had a full stomach prior to eating the pills. I had attempted 3 experiences prior to this once with small doses of roxicodone but felt nothing (due to false information given by a friend). Other than that I've had no prior experience with opioids.

11:07 pm:swallowed one 10 mg tablet, sat down to watch tv.

11:54 pm: ~50 min later and I still don't feel anything at all, going to swallow another 5 mg (half a pill) but chew it around this time to get rid of the controlled release coating. If I still don't feel anythig after taking this I'm going to snort the remaining 5 mg.

12:19 am:I get up to make some rice and I can tell I'm feeling mildly sedated. I look at my eyes in the mirror and they are very dilated. I still dont feel anything remarkable, which is odd to me because, through reading, 15mg is partially above average for a starting oxycontin dose. I decided to wait a little bit longer before finishing the remaining 5 mg.

So still not feeling anything particularly remarkable so I'm going to blow the rest of my oxy so I can be sure to feel something.

12:40 am: I crushedup the other half pill with the back of my phone, sifted it into a uniform line and snorted it with a dollar bill. I'm now going to lay down in bed and listen to music and i will hopefully feel something.

12:53 am: still fucking nothing except this weak head high. I would have thought that taking 20 mg of oxycontin with practically no tolerance and a small weight with every possible method of administration would have effected me at least moderately.



Now its 1:22 am and i still feel completely sober. Any help would be very appreciated.
 
Samwc said:
I look at my eyes in the mirror and they are very dilated.
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Opiates aren't supposed to cause mydriasis, its actually supposed to cause miosis. Are you sure these are legitimate pills?

I don't know if the whole 'reverse tolerance' phenomenon when your new to a specific substance is possible on opiates, but I'm curious if this is your issues. Do you have a handful of uses with opiates or is this like your first few times? This is my only other theory.
 
Dysphoric said:
Opiates aren't supposed to cause mydriasis, its actually supposed to cause miosis. Are you sure these are legitimate pills?

I don't know if the whole 'reverse tolerance' phenomenon when your new to a specific substance is possible on opiates, but I'm curious if this is your issues. Do you have a handful of uses with opiates or is this like your first few times? This is my only other theory.
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I'm almost positive that they were oxycodone, and legitimately so, i know what they look like and I trust the person who supplied me with them... as for my past experiences, the small doses of roxicodone I took (that went as small as 2.5 mg) were the only experiences I've ever had with any sort of opioids or opiate. But I did take roxi 3 times prior to trying the oxy last night.


I will include, however, that I woke up around 4:00 am last night with an annoying itch, presumably the infamous oxy itch, and whenever I scratched my skin felt kind of numb. (other than that, still no major effects - way less than 20mg should be doing to my body) so I'm pretty sure they are legitimate OxyContin. I think I have some weird immunity to them.
 
20mgs of oxycontin really isn't very much considering it's time release. If the are the american oxycontin I don't think you can destroy the time release just by chewing them. It should be safe enough to try up to 30mg oxy IR. If you don't feel anything from that, which is the highest single dose made, I'd give up on it, it would just probably be a waste. Opiates are subtle drugs, they're not going to blast you into space unless you're taking what is probably unsafe dosages.
 
Nicholai said:
20mgs of oxycontin really isn't very much considering it's time release. If the are the american oxycontin I don't think you can destroy the time release just by chewing them. It should be safe enough to try up to 30mg oxy IR. If you don't feel anything from that, which is the highest single dose made, I'd give up on it, it would just probably be a waste. Opiates are subtle drugs, they're not going to blast you into space unless you're taking what is probably unsafe dosages.
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Interesting. And by highest single dose, you do mean that comes in a single tablet, correct? Not that 30mg of OxyContin generally is the most one can take? And sadly I can't control whether I can receive IR or CR.

However, I am probably getting a hold of hydrocodone sometime this weekend, does anyone know if it has any controlled release system or if it would effect me any differently than the OxyContin?
 
Yeah, there is single dose roxi IR 30mg pills made. I don't think the new hydro pills have much of any antiabuse system at all.
 
The only two opiates I've tried were hydromorphone and heroin and neither got me euphorically high and I was able to do fairly big amounts with no tolerance.
I mean with hydro I did 150mg in two days without even nodding.
 
I agree with trying 30mg of roxy from a different source if at all possible. You said something about false information being given to you. possibly false pills? It's honestly not that uncommon. I hate to say this but the truth is that, even sources that seem credible, may not be. In the opiate world, people will fuck you to get theirs. Just saying that so you don't eliminate the possibility. I've had good friends do bad things to fuck me over when they got on opiates. Even with extended release, you should EASILY feel 20mg if that's only your 3rd/4th time of ever doing them. I got high AS HELL off 30mg of oxy the first 50 times or so that I tried it. Tolerance build fast, but not THAT fast. 30mg is a good test dose, because ANYONE with virgin receptors should feel 30mg. Most get blasted off that kind of dose. And it's just low enough of a dose that you don't have to worry about much if you aren't mixing other drugs. Anything above 30mg for someone new to opiates is WAY too much.
 
Hi Samwc,

I don't think any one can say why you aren't feeling what you want to feel.

Someone else in this thread pointed out that opiates are (or can be) subtle drugs, and you did describe some effects received that correlate with having taking an opioid; a bit of itchiness, feeling of mild sedation, numbness of skin.. all of those are part of an opiate's effects.

You may well simply not be in need of opiates. What are you expecting to feel? Do you have any issues with physical pain? Mental anguish? If you're a healthy person it may be that there's just no need for these drugs and thus the experience in underwhelming.

I love opiates and I don't think it's a coincidence that I also have clinical depression which really fired up from age 12 and has never gone away. For me opiates are unbeatable. Subtle in a sense, yes, but they take away the pain of living with chronic depression and that's the biggest high for me.

Have you tried other classes of drug which are more famously "in your face"? I'm not necessarily recommending that you do, but perhaps drugs which produce strong euphoria and/or a rush would have more obvious effects that you would appreciate. Meth, cocaine, MDMA.... these are not terribly subtle drugs and unless one is a "hard head" it'd be harder to miss the effects of a fair sized dose of these.

For me personally, the drugs which REMOVE feelings are the ones that give me the greatest enjoyment. Benzos removing anxiety, opiates removing my back pain and mental anguish, dissociatives with numb my body and take me out of my usual thought loops are all good for me. MDMA doesn't do anything that I like and meth and other stims causes a crash which compounds my existing anxiety and depression.

Sorry if I'm telling you stuff you already know, I'm just thinking that opiates/opioids may not be for you. An extreme way to find out I suppose would be to IV high purity heroin... but that is the last thing you want to do. If oxy isn't doing much for you then perhaps just forget about opiates. I really don't think you're missing out by not getting into a class of drugs which can still get you physically dependent whether or not you enjoy them.

Best of luck
 
Halif said:
Hi Samwc,

I don't think any one can say why you aren't feeling what you want to feel.

Someone else in this thread pointed out that opiates are (or can be) subtle drugs, and you did describe some effects received that correlate with having taking an opioid; a bit of itchiness, feeling of mild sedation, numbness of skin.. all of those are part of an opiate's effects.

You may well simply not be in need of opiates. What are you expecting to feel? Do you have any issues with physical pain? Mental anguish? If you're a healthy person it may be that there's just no need for these drugs and thus the experience in underwhelming.

I love opiates and I don't think it's a coincidence that I also have clinical depression which really fired up from age 12 and has never gone away. For me opiates are unbeatable. Subtle in a sense, yes, but they take away the pain of living with chronic depression and that's the biggest high for me.

Have you tried other classes of drug which are more famously "in your face"? I'm not necessarily recommending that you do, but perhaps drugs which produce strong euphoria and/or a rush would have more obvious effects that you would appreciate. Meth, cocaine, MDMA.... these are not terribly subtle drugs and unless one is a "hard head" it'd be harder to miss the effects of a fair sized dose of these.

For me personally, the drugs which REMOVE feelings are the ones that give me the greatest enjoyment. Benzos removing anxiety, opiates removing my back pain and mental anguish, dissociatives with numb my body and take me out of my usual thought loops are all good for me. MDMA doesn't do anything that I like and meth and other stims causes a crash which compounds my existing anxiety and depression.

Sorry if I'm telling you stuff you already know, I'm just thinking that opiates/opioids may not be for you. An extreme way to find out I suppose would be to IV high purity heroin... but that is the last thing you want to do. If oxy isn't doing much for you then perhaps just forget about opiates. I really don't think you're missing out by not getting into a class of drugs which can still get you physically dependent whether or not you enjoy them.

Best of luck
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I'm beginning to think this is the most appropriate reason I didn't feel anything... thanks for the help by the way. Like I said in my report I was pretty content with my life prior to taking the pills, and don't have any reoccurring pain that needs to be tended to. I also think it might have something to do with how 10mg isn't a lot, and because I redosed (took more after the initial dose), which I hear doesn't help the high associated with the initial amount taken become stronger.

Since apparently hydrocodone doesn't have any antiabuse coating or something of the sort, if I take two of these at 1 time with an empty stomach should I feel something? I reaaaaaally want to experience this opioid high I keep hearing so much great things about before I stop trying.
 
I reaaaaaally want to experience this opioid high I keep hearing so much great things about before I stop trying.
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I get big alarm bells from this.

Look, take this not as me trying to be a know-it-all smart ass and rather as someone who posts here to try to minimise harm: You have built up an expectation from reading other people's experiences. Keep reading and you'll find lots of people who don't get anything enjoyable at all from opiates.

More importantly, let's say you take more oxy or whatever opiate and suddenly you really really like it. Then what? Are you going to just stop and never take them again? There's a reason that people get addicted to opiates, and a lot of the time it's down to repeated using (ie. for pain management) and not because it's enjoyable. Oxy is a total bitch of a thing to be addicted to, and a lot of people who never ever imagined they'd do it end up moving over to heroin because it's ultimately a lot cheaper. But heroin does not have good bioavailability and is maximised through intravenous use which is an extremely hard thing to live with.

I've read lots of things about how mind blowing IV cocaine is, but almost without fail those people strongly advise against ever trying that. I have no doubt that IV coke is an unbelievable high, but there's no way in hell I'm doing that.

Opiates are funny things in that to get a powerful high you need to dose an amount which, if you are relatively opiate naive, is virtually guaranteed to bring some substantial side-effects; throwing up, painful itches and/or rashes, headaches (ironically!), and others.

It's not a perfect analogy by any means, but if you've ever been a cigarette smoker you'd know that the first few times you try to smoke your lungs reject it and you cough and feel kind of disgusting for a while. Once you've been a smoker, smoking a pack a day for a few years you might look back and think "Why the fuck did I persevere with this shit?!". Recreational drugs can be just the same but with more dire consequences.

I can only suggest you look elsewhere for an enjoyable high, because if you do end up getting it you're not likely to simply stop and say "well, that's that then. It was great. Now I think I'll go straight and study law".

Best of luck. I don't mean to sound rude.
 
Two vicodin? On an empty stomach I will feel a little silly on them. That's about it. Still safe to drive and go to work though. Have you never been prescribed them before? Did you have your wisdom teeth removed? It's a common painkiller after something like that.
 
Halif said:
I get big alarm bells from this.

Look, take this not as me trying to be a know-it-all smart ass and rather as someone who posts here to try to minimise harm: You have built up an expectation from reading other people's experiences. Keep reading and you'll find lots of people who don't get anything enjoyable at all from opiates.

More importantly, let's say you take more oxy or whatever opiate and suddenly you really really like it. Then what? Are you going to just stop and never take them again? There's a reason that people get addicted to opiates, and a lot of the time it's down to repeated using (ie. for pain management) and not because it's enjoyable. Oxy is a total bitch of a thing to be addicted to, and a lot of people who never ever imagined they'd do it end up moving over to heroin because it's ultimately a lot cheaper. But heroin does not have good bioavailability and is maximised through intravenous use which is an extremely hard thing to live with.

I've read lots of things about how mind blowing IV cocaine is, but almost without fail those people strongly advise against ever trying that. I have no doubt that IV coke is an unbelievable high, but there's no way in hell I'm doing that.

Opiates are funny things in that to get a powerful high you need to dose an amount which, if you are relatively opiate naive, is virtually guaranteed to bring some substantial side-effects; throwing up, painful itches and/or rashes, headaches (ironically!), and others.

It's not a perfect analogy by any means, but if you've ever been a cigarette smoker you'd know that the first few times you try to smoke your lungs reject it and you cough and feel kind of disgusting for a while. Once you've been a smoker, smoking a pack a day for a few years you might look back and think "Why the fuck did I persevere with this shit?!". Recreational drugs can be just the same but with more dire consequences.

I can only suggest you look elsewhere for an enjoyable high, because if you do end up getting it you're not likely to simply stop and say "well, that's that then. It was great. Now I think I'll go straight and study law".

Best of luck. I don't mean to sound rude.
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No, I definitely appreciate your caution. I do understand the dangers of opiate addiction. I didn't literally mean that I NEED the opiate high. I'd just, being interested in drugs and wanting to know basically what every one feels like, and after so many disappointing experiences with them in the past, want to at least know what it feels like. I suppose I'll take your advice though, as it sounds very intelligent and stick to something like benzos.


And abracadabra: nope, never been prescribed anything actually, I wouldn't know what an experience with them felt like.
 
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