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Why doesn't Molly like me?

Acadian

Acadian

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So this is my second kick at the can for Molly. Before you ask, no it's not tested, but this stuff is shared with a friend and he has nothing but positive glowing things to say about this.

I'm not new to MDMA, I've rolled quite a few times, but it seems like Molly doesn't really like me. The first time I tried it was NYE, I divided 200mg into 2 capsules. I dropped one cap and waited about 45 minutes and felt nothing, so I dropped the 2nd capsule. I felt a bit of effects, but absolutely nothing came on. I tried dosing with half a good pill that I've rolled on before and still nothing, I mean my pupils were dilated and I had some brain fog, but not a good experience. So I said enough and stopped.

The 2 to 3 days after were probably the worst experience of my life. It started with some bad cramping in my stomach, (Which very well could be from messed up seratonin levels or even SS), or maybe just a messed up stomach. Then the psychological effects were a bit disconcerting, my inner voice was driving me crazy, it's like that's all I could focus on. I kept repeating things over and over in my head and that was driving me insane and singing in my head over and over. I know that we as humans do this all the time, and we never really notice, but for some reason it was driving me insane. These symptoms subsided after a couple of days, which is a good thing. I realize it's probably due to chemical imbalance in my brain. I don't think I over did it, I've taken pills with 200mg before and redosed on half a pill.

OK so first experience was over.

I like to stretch out my rolls, so I waited a month and had a nice clean roll on the same pill as above (not the molly).

FF weekend past and probably another month since my other roll. I decided to try Molly again, this is from the same source as the first time. My friend loved the last stuff and had nice euphoria, loved up and all that jazz and he did like 600mg in one night. I am not impulsive, I can stop taking stuff even when I'm feeling really good. I'll do a half a pill start rolling, pop the other half to re-dose and stop because that little voice in my head will say don't overdo it.

OK so I was at a party and had probably 4 or 5 beer and stopped drinking alcohol around 11 and switched to water. I divided 250 mg into 2 caps and popped one and waited 45 minutes, then popped the other. I was still drinking some water while waiting. About 35 minutes later I started to feel a bit of something (some good feelings) , but it never really caught on, I mean I felt messed up a bit, but no real roll. No eye wiggles (I get eye wiggles on good pills everytime) no euphoria. My pupils were dilated, and I had some brain fog. This was like maybe 12:30. So I'm up late like 4 or 4:15 am (playing darts chatting with the wife and a friend) my wife and I retire for the night and crawling into bed I notice 1 thing strange.. my right leg feels stiff to bend at the knee and my right fingers feel a bit swollen. Like when you try to bend and they are tight. So I think it's weird, but I'm not like really overly concerned, I realize that stimulants can have an effect on your BP.

Then the migraine started. I had migraine for like an hour until I fell asleep around 5 and woke up at 8 , the migraine was gone. but my heart rate was pumping along pretty fast.

I'm in super good shape (I run 10Km to 13Km 3 times a week) so I'm not overly concerned; and this lasted probably for another hour; then my heart rate started to come down. I know that MDMA is a stimulant and can raise your heart rate. I don't think I was like in a super tachycardia state, but my heart rate is usually at rest 50 - 60 bpm and it felt like maybe I was going 100 - 110.

Other then the heart rate and headache which went away, I felt fine the next couple of days.

I should note that I started taking piracetam before, but didn't take the night, I started taking it again the next day. I've read that it could help in harm prevention.

OK so I know what the standard responses will be.

You didn't test so you can't really know what you took, and I get that; but the fact my buddy has taken this stuff and felt super great is just a bit odd to me.

This is my second attempt at molly and both times have been terrible experiences and he and his woman swear by this stuff.

I'm wondering if this is a dosage issue, or does Molly just not really agree with me. I mean really a good clean pill contains MDMA crystals and binder (and hopefully nothing else), so not really much different then taking Molly.


Just wondering if there are other people out there who have similar issues?
 
Sounds like it was not real MDMA. You said you're friend took 600mg? That's quite a lot, especially if it's MDMA. You only took 200mg, both times, correct? No wonder you both had different reactions.

It's really hard to give you a definite answer, we don't know what it is you took, and since you didn't test it, neither will you. It could have very well been MDMA, but if it was, it was without a doubt cut with something to increase profit. If it's good MDMA, you're friend wouldn't need 600mg in one night, that's for sure.

If it was my guess, it was probably some stimulant RC. Who knows though, it's all speculation at this point.
 
Yea I agree, my friend just wanted to peak over and over. He took the 600mg in the course of maybe 12 hours. This is not something I would ever do. I keep telling him that I have hesitations that it's MDMA.. I can roll on half a good 180 - 200 mg pill no problem.
 
Things tend to happen very differently every time on MDMA, although one recent event may link in a way to your issue. Me and 2 of my friends are used to taking MDMA, usually seshing it until its gone. One day we had 100mg each, 50mg each of MXE, rolled some spliffs and went walking. the MDMA buzzed us along for a bit but died out pretty quick leaving the MXE and weed to do its thing, but once we all started coming down from the MXE walking home we all just started feeling awful for the rest of the day.

I think when the body gets more used to the higher dosage and you end up only taking a small bit at a later point the body seems to skip the happy phase and throw you straight into the comedown which is probably explainable from the serotonin levels or something as it can have some long-term effects on it. Also the initial buzz from taking more of it seems to keep you going to the point of tiredness where your body normally just shuts down and skips the initial hit of the comedown, so it could also be the bodies lack of exhaustion that lets you be a lot more aware of the downsides.

Just some speculations, I could be wrong ;)
 
I know some community members already touched on this, but it may have been totally fake molly. I can't express how many friends I have who thought they were rolling and their molly was the shit and they had the time of their lives..... then I'm like hook it up and I test it and it's bunk. (They're just not used to what MDMA is really like and they mistake similar symptoms to indicate that they are rolling when they are probably on some research chem.)
That just doesn't sound like molly, it sounds sooooo like bath salts or something. Some people just don't know, your friend swears by it and says she is having a great time, but you clearly didn't. You know what good rolls are like, and good molly is very similar, so I think you know that that wasn't molly.

I hope you stay safe, this community loves you :)

Migraines and violent stomach cramps have never happened to me, and I've been rolling since 2005. We used to push it too, my friend took 27 rolls (fire white number 1's) and well maybe went a little crazy but he didn't have migraines or stomach cramps.
 
I didn't smell it, but I had a small taste and it wasn't that distinctive nasty taste that I have had before with pills. This stuff was really white also. I wonder what BK-MDMA tastes like.
 
Just another thought, would drinking alcohol maybe have a big part in what is happening? That's the only real factors that are in common with both Molly experiences. I probably had 5 or 6 beer and had a pretty good buzz on when I dropped the caps. I forgot to mention the other Molly was from another source who is very reputable.
 
Dude its not mdma.

You can tell. So many things point to this. 600mg? That's an awful lot if it was real.

Tell your friend to have fun with his research chemical (probably methylone/mephedrone) and find a new source! Also buy a kit.
 
Acadian said:
I didn't smell it, but I had a small taste and it wasn't that distinctive nasty taste that I have had before with pills. This stuff was really white also. I wonder what BK-MDMA tastes like.
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the odor doesn't matter because pure mdma is odorless, impure mdma may smell of safrole and such - leftover precursor oils. the taste though, pure mdma is tremendously bitter. i've dumped 100mg pure mdma on my tongue before and it was so bitter it made my tongue numb and triggered the gag reflex. methylone/bk-mdma doesn't taste all that bad, in fact there isn't much taste to it at all especially compared to something as ferociously bitter as mdma. i'm not saying it's bk-mdma because we won't know unless you get more and do a marquis test on it, i'm just sharing what i know.

so, it doesn't sound like real molly to me either.
 
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