Ethnobotanicals Why do you think Psilocybin is #1?

[Asante]

Mushrooms have done great things for me. Of Psilocybe cubensis, I personally prefer 0.25gr in the right set and setting. Better living through chemistry!

 

[Esperighanto]

The specific way I find it to be #1 personally is in ease of access, due to how comically simple they are to grow at home and in monstrous amounts at that.

 

[Esperighanto]

Sorry to double post but I just remembered, Panaeolus cyanescens mushrooms are the only ones that have ever led to me having a shared hallucination without talking to the person about it later, the deity of "The Green Man". It was quite peculiar, those specific mushrooms contain a magic unlike others in my opinion.

 

[Opana313]

I agree..according to everything I have read and images of this species, I strongly believe it was the 1st trip I ever had(1 gram, 2 lil full mushrooms) amazing visuals but ofc 1st time too

 

[Opana313]

Well wait a minute here this may be a fun thread.. is psilocybin number one?

What about mescaline or other cacti?

DMT/Ayahuasca- dmt sounds like the ultimate tryptamine for sure? To be that far gone with visual intensity and then some.

I thought LSD was considered among the strongest hallucinogens and easier to dose, lasts longer than mushrooms for the most part. I always considered lysergamides or one blotter to be on par with a good 3.5-4gram shroom trip(or possibly/sometimes a much heavier trip) and love it for that..what do yall think?

I have not tried any 2C compounds or anything..but seriously besides mushrooms being easy to cultivate or find in the wild or in urban communities..I don't think this qualifies it as the No. 1 hallucinogen.
If anything it's the fact of how hard one CAN trip on mushrooms and the visuals and the experience as a whole..but hey I haven't had dmt, but I bet I would love it just as much as I love Mushrooms or LSD.

What makes a hallucinogen a great one?

Body load? Clarity? Absolute confusion? Intense visuals, different style of visuals? I know they have things like the HRS(hallucinogen rating scale).

I think mushrooms are possibly number one(if they are the best hallucinogen) because not only being around since the age of time, but because even the culture admits to these..what comes to mind when you think of hallucinogens?

I think the title should be why do uou think LSD and Psilocybin is #1?

 

[pupnik]

lsd is #1 but so is psilocybin. you don't really have to be stoned to know this.
a few more things are also #1 but that would turn everything into a democracy

 

[Opana313]

Good point. I guess I am trying to get others to compare and contrast so to speak for all tryptamines and lysergamides.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

One reason for Mushrooms to earn that #1 imo.
Is not because i find em easy going.
4HO-MIPT for a Tryptamine is more easy going. LSD is, 2C-E is.

But after the for me unpleasant 5/ 6.5 hours the trip last s and the come up.
So starting during the comedown, and getting stronger the following week.
Is that after glow, i can always sleep after Psilocybine also a plus.
But the after glow, which starts as a pure relief that the effects are fading.

The week after become stronger, giving a sort of anti-depressant effect.
Or other worded mood elevation, which lasts quite some time.
And this seems strongest with Tryptamine s, especially Mushroom s.
[Truffle s in Holland]

This effect seems stronger compared to Lysergic s or Phenethylamine s.

 

[Zana_banana]

I find mushrooms produce the pinnacle of wholesome conscious experience. Ecstacy, LSD etc feel chemical, manufactured, electric even. Mushies feel like they hug and embrace you. It's also easier to control dosage!

 

[emkee_reinvented]

I find mushrooms produce the pinnacle of wholesome conscious experience. Ecstacy, LSD etc feel chemical, manufactured, electric even. Mushies feel like they hug and embrace you. It's also easier to control dosage!

Well i retry the truffles they are tasty, and a tea of em nicer then from Shrooms.

But disagree on the rest as any dosage of Psilocybin for me till now,
was mental torture. Its the after effect s curious if they are still there.
These were remarkable strong. Compared to any other substance.

Lysergic s ime never felt chemical, or synthesised.
4-HO-MIPT did also feel more natural as Shrooms,
Phenethylamines have a tendency to feel synthetic.
Or is it side effect s, i get those on Shrooms to !

But 2C-E and 2C-T2 felt natural, with 2C-B there is a little of that feel.
Basically some came over well balanced for me. Not Shrooms.
2C-B more but not quite there. Lysergic s to me feel most natural.

MDMA can most doesn t, but real good made MDMA,
it feel s a bit like a Mushroom trip at the come up.
Resembling also are the slow waves like of Psilocybin.
The insight s, its milder some and you feel better,
and no hallucination s.
A mystery it tested MDMA, it wasn t MDA.

Its the same substance, but unlike normal good MDMA.
This procedure creates a trippy like MDMA, a psychedelic as Psilocybin.
But in head-space only, with less mind fuck.

 

[Opana313]

Idk i mean mescaline is a hallucinogen phenethylamine, right? I would say start there. Shrooms get nutty because well I think that's the beauty of it. I could say it's all bc of the pre frontal cortex BUT a strong mushroom trip or even mediocre can turn everything upside down as if you have gone mad, and then toward the comedown you start to piece the puzzle of your mind and consciousness back together(i guess) and THAT is where you get your blissfully, peaceful, warm and loving, EPIPHANY. Which explains the god complex toward the end, like you're the one that figured it all out! ? Idk what do you think?

 

[Zana_banana]

Idk i mean mescaline is a hallucinogen phenethylamine, right? I would say start there. Shrooms get nutty because well I think that's the beauty of it. I could say it's all bc of the pre frontal cortex BUT a strong mushroom trip or even mediocre can turn everything upside down as if you have gone mad, and then toward the comedown you start to piece the puzzle of your mind and consciousness back together(i guess) and THAT is where you get your blissfully, peaceful, warm and loving, EPIPHANY. Which explains the god complex toward the end, like you're the one that figured it all out! ? Idk what do you think?

I think it really has to do with your state of mind going in, and the environment and company you're in. If you get all this right you're almost guaranteed a wholly good trip. I've never felt a God complex, moreso that God is everywhere, since everything is the same: just energy particles arranged in different formations, and this is a very calming notion.

It might also be worth noting, at what stage one experiences their most profound ego death/s. I don't get so many deep revelations nowadays when tripping (although it does certainly happen) because of previous revelations which have cemented the truth (that everything is one). When taking mushrooms now, it's just like going home and shaking off the dust. Like being welcomed home and giving my spirit a deep, joyful rest. But that doesn't happen with synthetic compounds: they feel more like being brain-fucked by a tazer!

 

[Opana313]

@Zana_banana
I agree! That's kinda what I meant as everything being one - realization. I think the most profound are the ones you prepare for physically and mentally. Going into it for a profound experience and for lots of fun but I love when the mushroom or lsd etc presents to me, or rather allows my mind to now understand something that you may never really knew bothered you, or caused a problem that made life harder for no reason & you're like oh I need to just stop that or do this..and to harness that and depict and to nurture it is where some healing comes or maybe starts. Fucking love Tripping Ballz