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Why do people roll so often if we all know the once a month rule?

Kastr0 said:
Because not everybody is educated on the subject like you and I are.

Some people may not care, a lot of people I have come across are very skeptical about internet sites and information that comes from them in regards to doing drugs (I have been in so many arguements with kids who swear that there was heroin in their E pills, and that double stacked pills are the best, lol..).. some people are just ignorant and stubborn, they refuse to be corrected and they dont want to know the truth..
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These are people that are generally called ignorant. For all I care, I _HOPE_ they hurt themselves. Maybe they will learn when they are laying in the street huffing glue from a plastic bag like Romanian children, to ward of hunger. I'll be the first one to pop their plastic bag and laugh at them. No, really. I promise I will.
Kastr0 said:
Due to the amazing euphoric feelings that MDMA gives to most people, it would only be logical to assume that some people may "bend the rules" and continue using MDMA over the recomended limit...
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Too fucking bad. Learn a little self control, or pay the consequences. I used to use extremely heavy amounts of MDMA and simply quit one Monday morning after not being able to move from my body being so worn out. It happens. Don't want to play by the rules? Have fun sitting on the bench.

By that bench, I mean a park bench. For the rest of their ignorant little lives.
I hope it's a long life, as well. I'll hang a sign on their pathetic and weak body stating:

Hello! I am an E-Tard. I did too much MDMA even when I was told this would happen to me!
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I really can't have sympathy for people who are educated on topics alas decide to simply disreguard them.

I do it all the time. I pay every time. Every single time. Then again, I'm doing far more fun things with my time.

If someone does however wish to do MDMA, and they want to disreguard the rules as well...
Let's just let nature take it's toll on them. The stupid have already been given chances to assimilate information they've heard from reputable people into their lives but due to their own superiority complex (or STUPIDITY) they do otherwise.

Too bad, too...fucking...bad.
 
Harm Reduction isn't simply about presenting information and demanding that people use it. If that were the case we wouldn't need places like Bluelight, and it's no different than the government's "abstain from drugs or you're disowned" drug education policy.

People are bombarded by a ridiculous amount of new information daily. You can't expect them to completely alter their behavior after reading something once, and that's why HR is an ongoing process. You're certainly not going to convince any of those "stupid" people to start being more responsible by being condescending.
 
I'm not sure what to say. . .

center, to some extent, has expressed my personal disbelief in mdma users frequency of use.


I still rank MDMA as the greatest precursor to euphoria I have ever encountered. Perhaps I'll experience the 'joy' of having children, getting married,etc. whatever, it won't equal the sheer bliss of MDMA.


In regards to why people use more MDMA than they should? Greedy and ignorant fucking fuckers. I have a prescription for dexedrine but I use the smallest dose I possibly can (anyone offering hypothetical theories on the role of dopamine is way off). The point (i.e. why I used my personal prescription as a reference point, is that effective use of a seemiingly abusable drug is several steps from comprehension in regards to a lat persons understanding).
 
^Very nicely put, GenericMind, this makes a lot of sense.

I like to think it's akin to what Einstein said: "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."

harm reduction must not be about enforcing rules. Rather, it should be about encouraging the wisest and safest use of drugs, and hoping that people will listen and UNDERSTAND.
 
Unfortunately, GenericMind...those who don't care to learn, simply won't. There's more than plenty of resources that are credible and easy to understand. Those who wish to 'turn the other cheek' can expect the same from me when they're grabbing my pants leg, begging for spare change.

I'm sorry, I can't pity the stubbornly ignorant, which by the way, is the lay definition of stupid.

You can enjoy it all you want, there are resources available. If you don't wish to learn, ooops...that's your fault, Sally.

Catch me laughing in the back seat of my car. GenericMind, we evidently have different views, let's not bicker about it. It's come down to core feelings of sympathy (or perhaps empathy :P)which come from your own morals.

Agree to disagree.

harm reduction must not be about enforcing rules. Rather, it should be about encouraging the wisest and safest use of drugs, and hoping that people will listen and UNDERSTAND.
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If you have, say a man named Billy Ann James, and Billy Ann doesn't care to listen to you, stating that his "homeskillet picked up some spicy azz quadra-stax with dual MEMA in em" and when you try to correct him he blows it back in your face, acting like a little savage orphan in a third world country. What do you do when he's ruined himself for his stupidity after having one attempt to change how he thinks?


I don't know about you, but in most religions, not even GOD himself on the day of judgement will feel any pity for you, and will cast you into hell.

Don't expect me to sympathize with someone who's name is Billy Ann James, who didn't listen to his God on Earth. I pity the cur.
 
a study with lab rats showed that a dose of Prozac within 6 hours of MDMA administration stopped the neurotoxicity.
i wish i'd known that from the start, i also wish i'd had prozac, because i fucked up my brain and now my depression doesn't go away. i'm hopin to get prozac soon to make me sane...
if you're gonna overdo x you gotta at least try and throw in a little harm reduction. 5-htp before and after, maybe prozac afterward, you know...
you'll be sorry if you don't. i am...
sorry that i fucked myself up, not sorry i did so much x, god knows it was fun...
 
Hm.

It is sad in Pothedd's case. A dear friend.

I still think there's time to recover. I haven't "ROoROOOLLed" for three years.

I used to do it on a weekly-bi weekly basis for a bit of time. Range 200-550mg an evening. Usually the higher doses would stop me from rolling the following week due to depression and utter bedlock.

I feel as fresh as a daisy in an Alabama meadow.
 
when the pills are good, its hard not to want to roll every weekend or week. i bet if e was more available it would be not as abused much. people like to eat up drugs that arent very common in their areas.
 
^ You'd think that would be more a reason to save em up. Compiling a collection of various clean pills is really fun and satisfying to prove to yourself that you don't need to eat the drugs just because they're there. Then, in a year, you've got a sweet stash and the perfect opportunity to roll comes around and everyone gets to eat a dank pill from the pile :)
 
I say its your personal choice. Roll as much as you want. Its your life. Maybe not a healthy choice, lol, but a choice.
Live your life the way YOU want to live it.
Advice on ecstasy is given to help people not judge them.
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I've been using/abusing MDMA for five years with varying frequency and i find it hard to believe people would roll as often as they claim (~5/week). Highs drop off precipitously as serotonin is depleted and taking more pills is just a waste of time before you recover. If you go hard the first night and you're still feeling anything by day two, it isn't MDMA in your pills.
 
I don't think a lot of people do know that once a month rule, well, at least all the people I hang out with. I tried to tell them, but they are still set that ecstasy creates holes on your brain and it's 15 vs 1. So I lose. But I only use ecstasy once every 1-2 months.
 
I waited 5 months before my last roll. Biggest break I've ever done.

I intend to take at least 3 months off between each from now on. I could gladly go to once a year. I just don't crave it as much anymore.
 
IMO thizz is a drug just like any other, people who smoke weed get carried away all the time and start blazing like twice a day but since there aren't as many negative effects they can carry on, now appy this to E, a drug that arguably causes more euphoria than any other (many will say psychedelics but lets save that discussion for another time) certainly 100 times more than Marijuana, so in that sense how could people not get carried away with it, I'm certainly in love with Mary Jane, i get massive cravings for it and find it hard to go for more than a week without getting stoned, i know it's bad for me but i fucking love it. I have a friend who over our last winter break rolled EVERY DAY. and to finish it all off he and a friend POPPED 21 PILLS IN ONE DAY, if thats not addiction then i don't know what is. Afterwards he was almost retarted but eventually he came back to his old self about 90-95%. that was almost 11 months ago. but ever since those fatefull 2 weeks theres been a part of our good friend alex that didn't quite comeback.
 
The reason people get away with smoking weed all the time is that it has very few negative effects aside from dependence. Try that with E and very soon your brain will be broken. You can't really compare MJ abuse and MDMA abuse.
 
^^^thats exactly what i said,

"people who smoke weed get carried away all the time and start blazing like twice a day but since there aren't as many negative effects they can carry on"

copy and pasted from my previous post. not in a hostile way but people need to make sure they are getting the correct message from a post before they reply to it, people seem to get so excited when they see a chance to prove someone wrong and seem all smart that they don't fully read a post. this has seemed to happen on every forum i've ever been on.
 
7 pills for £10 pounds.

At current conversion rate thats 7 pills for $20.49


And over here if your <18 there easier to get that booze.


AAANND Theres at least 3 - 4 SICK raves every weekend where I live.


This is how people can abuse the drug in england.
 
Pretty_Diamonds said:
I don't think a lot of people do know that once a month rule, well, at least all the people I hang out with. I tried to tell them, but they are still set that ecstasy creates holes on your brain and it's 15 vs 1. So I lose. But I only use ecstasy once every 1-2 months.
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Do they take mdma more or less frequently than once a month? Or do they not take the drug at all?
 
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