why do people cook ketamine?
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rickolasnice
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Cooking up ket means evaporating a ketamine solution leaving you with ketamine crystals.
Ketamine commonly comes in vials (at higher amounts) that are liquid and prepared for injection..
Ketamine commonly comes in vials (at higher amounts) that are liquid and prepared for injection..
ungelesene_bettlek
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because they want it to be a fine powder for snorting and do not realize that simply crushing it up gives the same result. of course they have a lot of superstition attached to it as well.
no.
it's a waste of time.
the thread opener is not talking about vials, but crystal ketamine.
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heythatsmybike
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^^^same reason you chop a mix, furthur/easier spread amongst a group of people.
Bomboclat
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1g Ketamine still = 1g ketamine, even if you cook it up. Cooking up already dehydrated ketamine HCl just makes it into a finer, almost powder like salt which is a bit easier on the nose. Its somewhat of a waste of time and you risk losing ket in the process, but if you get ketamine thats really chunky and hard (ive had rock solid ket that cut the crap out of my nose), re-cooking makes it easier to snoot.
If OP is talking about dehydrating ket, you "cook" it up because ketamine usually (unless its already bought in wholesale as HCl or made in a clandestine lab) comes in vials of solution, which you'd have to IM or IV. IMing ketamine is amaaazing, I just wouldnt suggest it until you'e had enough experience with ketamine and k-holing.
If OP is talking about dehydrating ket, you "cook" it up because ketamine usually (unless its already bought in wholesale as HCl or made in a clandestine lab) comes in vials of solution, which you'd have to IM or IV. IMing ketamine is amaaazing, I just wouldnt suggest it until you'e had enough experience with ketamine and k-holing.
heythatsmybike
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I figured it would be to do with the actual ROA, when ingestested you need a lot of k, or at least to my understanding. By making it finer it would actually cause more of it to be absorbed through your nose rather than dripping down the back of your throat. Not sure if that's right but it makes sense to me.
Bomboclat
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You dont need to take a lot of K at all if you dont have a tolerance
50mg insufflated for a newbie is a great first dose
Orally its a different story, but unless you have a boatload of K to waste, I dont see a reason to take it orally. (You need like a half gram orally just to hole!)
If there's too much K dripping down your throat, a) stop snorting so hard/fast as the faster/harder you snort the more chance you have of it completely missing that "right spot" and just going down your thraot, and b) dont swallow it just yet, swish it around your mouth so it gets absorbed under your tongue.
50mg insufflated for a newbie is a great first dose
Orally its a different story, but unless you have a boatload of K to waste, I dont see a reason to take it orally. (You need like a half gram orally just to hole!)
If there's too much K dripping down your throat, a) stop snorting so hard/fast as the faster/harder you snort the more chance you have of it completely missing that "right spot" and just going down your thraot, and b) dont swallow it just yet, swish it around your mouth so it gets absorbed under your tongue.
heythatsmybike
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Wasn't saying to eat it, but the chunkier the less surface area being absorbed through the nose. What you say makes sense, but it's so fucking hard trying not to swallow. That's like having a buffalo shit in your mouth and you trying to hold it in there without swallowing or spitting it out.
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delta_9
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Because they don't understand basic chemical laws.
Shambles
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^ Ain't that the truth. I'm still struggling to konvince my ket dealer that he really doesn't need to be buying krystal, dissolving it then steaming it for several hours till he's fried the living shit out of it rather than just selling me the krystal like is all I want. He thinks I'm a freak kos I just want krsytal and krush it. With me thumb. And a kard. Really isn't so hard.
Bomboclat
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LOL maybe im just use to it, but I really dont find the taste of ket that bad. I dont enjoy it, and I dont know a single person who can honestly say who does (we are genetically predisposed to dislike bitter chemical tastes), but it certainly isnt that bad.
If when you dry out a vial, you add a drop of vanilla extract to the liquid solution and then cook it up, your ket will have a vanilla kick to it which is actually a bit enjoyable! Ive had some "peach ket" that was really delicious!
I usually do 1 drop of flavoring/extract to 10ml solution (usually 1g/10ml)
Old post, but I thought id drop some knowledge anyway
As for re-hydrating and de-hydrating ketamine HCl, unless you have ket that is rock solid and unbreakable (or just hard as shit to break down), its a waste of time and a waste of product.
Just crush and snort the damn crystals!
In fact, I think im going to go do that right now!
Shambles
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Fuck all that silly flavouring biznizz - ket is pure minty fresh as it is 
Roll on payday in a few hours and I'll be joining you there, Thizz
Roll on payday in a few hours and I'll be joining you there, Thizz
delta_9
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^^@Thizz, with respect, this will only lead people to belive you adulterate your drugs(which I suppose technically you did), and they will think you get impure shit.
I'm not saying you sell drugs or anything, but you're a nice guy and I'm sure you've shared in the past :D
I'm not saying you sell drugs or anything, but you're a nice guy and I'm sure you've shared in the past :D
rickolasnice
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^ A drop of flavouring isn't really adulterating it (well techincally sure but it's not adding weight / anything active / anything harmful / size).. And he didn't say he was selling it?
delta_9
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That's why I made it a point to say I'm NOT calling him a drug dealer.
All I meant was that if I did a line of k and it tastes like vanilla, no matter what the guy who gave it to me told me I would seek other sources at once.
I just expect my drugs to taste certain ways is all.
******Again, this is NOT bashing thizzz, he's a good man and I respect him.
All I meant was that if I did a line of k and it tastes like vanilla, no matter what the guy who gave it to me told me I would seek other sources at once.
I just expect my drugs to taste certain ways is all.
******Again, this is NOT bashing thizzz, he's a good man and I respect him.
specialspack
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Not necessarily. I have always re-dissolved crystal ketamine and (gently) evaporated it, because I find it easier to manipulate, and less harsh on the nose.
The resulting less dense, fluffier crystals are easier and less painful to snort and much less prone to the "over shooting" and swallowing effect.
Having a bigger volume of powder I find preferable as well - when the crystals first started to appear more regularly than ketamine cooked from solution, I found I got through a gram much quicker, and often overdosed myself to anaesthesia. When a bit wasted, ones judgement on sizes of lines is often a bit squiffy, and having density crystals didn't help that. I suppose if I had never tried less dense ketamine it would be less of an issue, but my brain has now ingrained certain sizes of line to approximate weights, and when fucked is better and making a stab at what's 50mg and what's 100mg.
Once I started dissolving and recrystalling the crystals, I found I was much less likely to have a "wtf - where has that whole gram gone, and I don't remember anything" moment.
helium-4
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People cook ketamine because they are uneducated and following the protocols set out by the users around them.
If you have ketamine in vials dehydrating the solution to powder is necessary if you are trying to blow some lines. However you have it in a crystal/powder form dehydrating and dehydrating isn't going to do anything but potentially waste some of your ketamine. Ketamine is ketamine, whether the crystals are large or finely crushed, it is the same substance. Also why waste time cooking k when you can take a heavy object to smash the crystals and razor to dice them up.
If you have ketamine in vials dehydrating the solution to powder is necessary if you are trying to blow some lines. However you have it in a crystal/powder form dehydrating and dehydrating isn't going to do anything but potentially waste some of your ketamine. Ketamine is ketamine, whether the crystals are large or finely crushed, it is the same substance. Also why waste time cooking k when you can take a heavy object to smash the crystals and razor to dice them up.