JosephTHeSequel
Bluelighter
I dont think he was saying you made up the stat Psyko. I think he was saying the source it came from may have just b'sd it.
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Why do most dealers not want to deal or even touch with heroin?
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anfalicious
Bluelighter
I played with the hammer a little a while back. After a few months of social use, I dropped it and ran. Why? Because I felt I COULD get addicted to this drug, not may or was, simply could.
I'm don't like preaching, but I'm sure if more people could realise this in its early stage then heroin, and indeed all drugs would have a better rep.
As for dealers not having H, hate to rehash whats already been said, but it's the circles. I know smack dealers who wouldn't know where to get a pill from. And I know plenty of heroin users who think people who take E's are morons (I mean, look at the clothes it makes people wear
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I think the main problem for its rep here in Aus is that it is SEEN as a poor persons drug, a junkie in the street with a needle sticking out of his arm drug. This is because it is, in comparrison to other drugs, rediculously cheap (Seen caps go for as little as about USD$3) and therefore used by a lot of homeless people and street kids as an escape. Also last year we had almost as many people die from Heroin as in car accidents (due largely to a lot of bad gear going around, it's dropped to about 5% of what it was).
So the point of this post? Not ever "User" is a "Junkie" and as with any drug, I believe you control your addiction, not the other way around
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I'm don't like preaching, but I'm sure if more people could realise this in its early stage then heroin, and indeed all drugs would have a better rep.
As for dealers not having H, hate to rehash whats already been said, but it's the circles. I know smack dealers who wouldn't know where to get a pill from. And I know plenty of heroin users who think people who take E's are morons (I mean, look at the clothes it makes people wear
I think the main problem for its rep here in Aus is that it is SEEN as a poor persons drug, a junkie in the street with a needle sticking out of his arm drug. This is because it is, in comparrison to other drugs, rediculously cheap (Seen caps go for as little as about USD$3) and therefore used by a lot of homeless people and street kids as an escape. Also last year we had almost as many people die from Heroin as in car accidents (due largely to a lot of bad gear going around, it's dropped to about 5% of what it was).
So the point of this post? Not ever "User" is a "Junkie" and as with any drug, I believe you control your addiction, not the other way around
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PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
It just boggles the mind... some of your comments are just, STUPID.. and it's not like you're all clueless idiots brainwashed by DARE propaganda - some of you guys are credible sources of info when it comes to certin drugs...
... enters heroin ...
Suddenly the autistic child in you comes out and it's HEROIN IS EVIL or MY BROTHER WAS A HIGH SCHOOL TRACKSTAR WHEN HEROIN DRUGGED HIM AND RAPED HIM AT A PARTY or THAT SHIT WILL DESTROY YOUR LIFE, BRAIN, AND EVERYTHING YOU VALUE ..
Let's see if we can find a happy-medium .. a few basic rules -
1) If you have NOT used heroin then you can NOT make comments about "how addictive" it is .. a common theme among the pro-heroin folk is that the addiction aspect CAN be controlled ..
2) Unless the poster asks for stories about heroin overdoses/deaths/addiction, please do not waste your time with them! .. yeah, we all know that everyone has a best friend that died because of a heroin overdose, and maybe if you post that story you can save some poor, mis-guided youths life - WELL DONT!
3) If you have a problem with heroin, please do NOT EVEN BOTHER TO READ THE THREAD! .. for real guys.. there are a number of drugs I don't care for, so when one of these threads pops up, I tend to IGNORE IT ..
It's simple - people come looking for accurate information about drugs, and the accurate bit of info abouy heroin is that it has benifits and risks - we need to present both sides of the story then let the user decide... to dumb that down - you can give info on how if you overdose you can die, and how if you become addicited you may lose control of your life .. but do NOT just yell and scream about how a CHEMICAL is BAD and that it's users are any les responsible then the users of any other drug...
Also, statistics about drugs (most anything in regards to them) are NOT ACCURATE .. drugs are illegal, so people are not truthfull and fourth comming when it comes to getting info about their use...
Sure, heroin users look bad because the only users you see are those that lost control.. the "chippers" that do the drug with no problems are not on HBO specials, they are the people you work with, go to school with, etc...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
... enters heroin ...
Suddenly the autistic child in you comes out and it's HEROIN IS EVIL or MY BROTHER WAS A HIGH SCHOOL TRACKSTAR WHEN HEROIN DRUGGED HIM AND RAPED HIM AT A PARTY or THAT SHIT WILL DESTROY YOUR LIFE, BRAIN, AND EVERYTHING YOU VALUE ..
Let's see if we can find a happy-medium .. a few basic rules -
1) If you have NOT used heroin then you can NOT make comments about "how addictive" it is .. a common theme among the pro-heroin folk is that the addiction aspect CAN be controlled ..
2) Unless the poster asks for stories about heroin overdoses/deaths/addiction, please do not waste your time with them! .. yeah, we all know that everyone has a best friend that died because of a heroin overdose, and maybe if you post that story you can save some poor, mis-guided youths life - WELL DONT!
3) If you have a problem with heroin, please do NOT EVEN BOTHER TO READ THE THREAD! .. for real guys.. there are a number of drugs I don't care for, so when one of these threads pops up, I tend to IGNORE IT ..
It's simple - people come looking for accurate information about drugs, and the accurate bit of info abouy heroin is that it has benifits and risks - we need to present both sides of the story then let the user decide... to dumb that down - you can give info on how if you overdose you can die, and how if you become addicited you may lose control of your life .. but do NOT just yell and scream about how a CHEMICAL is BAD and that it's users are any les responsible then the users of any other drug...
Also, statistics about drugs (most anything in regards to them) are NOT ACCURATE .. drugs are illegal, so people are not truthfull and fourth comming when it comes to getting info about their use...
Sure, heroin users look bad because the only users you see are those that lost control.. the "chippers" that do the drug with no problems are not on HBO specials, they are the people you work with, go to school with, etc...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)