Why do folks treat DXM as a trip?

[JediMindTricks]

a fourth of a bottle???? thats only like 65 mg at max, crazy. you might have theat enzyme tihng or whatever

 

[magician humphrey]

First time...

I done this twice in the past 14 days and I have to say the first time (Approx 300MG) I thought I would have to call an ambulance for the first 40 minutes after first getting a hit off it, as I was drunk on strong evil cider and it made me stupendously hot, sweaty, accelerated heartbeat etc, was fucking scary. When I think back now it reminded me of ACID or 'Liberty Cap' Mushrooms in that it literally would FIGHT the alcohol and not go with it at all. I drank a load of water and went for a massive long walk in the snow covered fields where I live, once the alcohol fighting effect calmed off I started to REALLY Trip, going deep into my subconscious, really letting go of negative shit and focusing on bringing myself closer to .... God/Source Energy/Life Energy/ The Great Spirit. A really shamanic feeling, thinking about all my close friends, lost friends, and everyones life missions, some of them wasting away, at this point I was lying in the snow, next I was like RISE UP! shouting really loud, stomping on the floor like a med-evil War Lord! That was brilliant, I let go of a lot of stress and shit and redirected my energies, felt 100x better when I returned home.

I wrote the following afterwards and pasted it all round FaceBook etc lol.

"RISE UP- Stop making excuses all the time, just rise up and FOLLOW your Dreams, all this and that technology etc.. is JUST a distraction, you know YOUR PLACE and POWER deep down, so RISE UP!" :D

 

[Legerity]

I've had some fun DXM experiences but I've never really gotten much depth like I have out of trytamines or PEA.

It pretty much numbs me down, I couldn't imagine really ever experiencing much panic/anxiety on dissociatives, but nausea hell yeah. I'd maybe DXM more of a chance if I bothered to get some pure and avoid the syrups, but I don't really consider it the same kind of experience as other types of psychedelics.

K-holes on the other hand I would gladly explore more if I got the chance

 

[derkaderka]

I want to try dxm powder, all my experiences are from syrups, even those nasty red pills(hey I didnt know shit back then) Later I used this spray stuff that was dxm only, but i dont like downing stuff like that. I think I need powder to understand what dxm is like because I get sick and that ruins it.

Although I seem to like taking a 2nd plat dose and smoking weed, the combo is amazing and better then taking a 3rd plat dose(at least with syrups)

 

[rollingstoned!]

Because if you eat enough (800-1000mgs for me) you trip balls.

^ This is why.

 

[helium-4]

Your typical dissociatives (NMDA-antagonists) like Ketamine, DXM, nitrous, and PCP (I've never taken PCP so can't comment directly from experience) are not going to give you an experience that mimics that of traditional psychedelics (5-ht2a agonists). These dissociative's hallucinatory effects (or "trippy" effects) are mediated through their blocking (antagonism) of the NMDA ligand-gated ion channels (they attach to specific sites in the NMDA ion channel and prevents the channel from opening [uncompetitive antagonism], stopping the flow of Ca+ ions preventing an action potential from taking place). This is completely different than the agonism of your traditional psychedelics like LSD or Mushrooms on the 5-ht2a g protien coupled receptors, which are theorized to be the site of the hallucinatory effects (they attach to these specific serotonin binding sites triggering a response within the cell, aka causing a cascade of process with in the cell). So with all that said, the effects of your traditional psychedelics that has become to define what the expectation of the tripping experience is (obviously individual drugs have their own specific mode of action), doesn't share similarities to dissociatives like DXM. Not that dissociatives aren't mind manifesting, the subjective experience of the individual experiences a different form "trippyness". I find dissocitives to strip away the complex emotions leaving you with the primal emotions (of course high doses, the less and less the emotions become recognizable), and creates overwhelming sense of depersonalization, often leading to intense OBE (out of body experiences) and the ambiguous term ego-death. Sorry, I can't really explain the true differences of the traditional psychedelic experience and a dissociative experience, as its always hard to put into words not only a subjective experience, but a experience that really can only described by taking it.

It seems like most dissociatives have a weight dependent tolerance, so 354mg of DXM to me ,a 5'11" 185lb male, is a low ++ (see shulgin's scale, or the DXM plateau scale), while for my, ~5'8-10" ~110 lb, friend get rocked both by the hallucinatory effects and the nausea at the same dosage potentially bringing a solid +++. It takes me at least 650mg of DXM to achieve a +++ and at this point +708 mg to get to a strong +++ (OBEs, dex-hole).

I've stopped really trying to achieve strong +++'s on DXM alone at this point due to what I feel is raise in my permanent dissociative tolerance. I rather not go above 708mg of DXM for the increase side effects of taking so much DXM (after effects that seem to last longer than say ketamine) and for my stomachs sake (i have one hell of a time keeping down two bottles of Robitussin).

 

[DwayneHoover]

^Does your username come from a fantasy/sci-fi book series?

"Shine, Shine, The Light of Good Work Shines!"

YEA!!! One of the most awesome-est songs ever!

King Crimson. All great trip music. So fucking majestic it's unreal.

I especially love Starless and Bible Black album. From whence comes the utterly flattening "The Night Watch", which is about a Rembrandt painting, and has one of the most oblitteratingly intense instrumental buildup openings that eventually breaks into lyrics with great melodies in the voice and all the instruments... very dynamic and multi overlapping parts and sections, very complex like a symphony in 4:40... The section where the buildup which has held one solid shimmering sparkling blazing note the whole time has these two falling notes at 0:45 just kills me through to the vocal & almost makes me break down in tears every time. And just touches like the suddenly quiet little guitar/bass interweaving counterpart fugue at 1:57, glorious! The choral "Wah Oo Wah Oh Wah Oh" figures entering at 3:05 behind Fripp's mindblowing guitar solo... soooo emotional!

If you never heard this classic work of utter genius song check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjpL6-NgvKE

FOR BEST SOUND: after it starts playing, PAUSE, then switch resolution to 480p with menu to lower right of image frame... start again and re-pause, then wait for it to completely rebuffer (pale red will fill the progress meter).

 

[CitioKid]

I get terrible, dark feeling every time I take dxm now. I used it quite a bit four years back in highschool, and then didn't touch it up until two weeks ago.

I've done it twice, and both times (just as it was near the end of my tripping days in high school) I get this deep, dark feeling that I am wasting my life away and that soon life will be over and I will be dead. It's rather unsettling, and it obliterates the fun and sense of adventure that it used to give me.

And I am always amazed at the doses people take. Doses from 300 to 400mg completely fuck me up. And in the beginning 200mg was all it took. Like I can barely walk and there is no way in hell I could act normal for even a second if anyone was to try speak with me.

 

[The Hebrew Hammer]

DXM at about a gram or so, for someone weighing about 150lbs is an incredible trip.

The way I look at it. If you are still wondering around in this reality, you didnt take enough DXM.

I have only done it 2 or 3 times, and that was probably 10 years ago, but When you get about a gram into you the entire trip is experienced with your eyes closed sitting down on a couch or chair or something.

I would litterally close my eyes and experience a whole other life time from birth to death, then open my eyes up and it would be like 1 minute later than when I closed my eyes.... Fucking NUTS!!!

Its very psychedelic if you dose the right amount.

Underdosing makes for a boring experience.

 

[pharmakos]

ya gotta wait more than an hour brah