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Why do folks treat DXM as a trip?

I did another five 30mg and two 30mg (a couple hrs later) with my sister and her friend. Was again great fun. A little bit of nausea, but only because i ate right after i had the pills and ate too much garlic butter, again great coordination loss, euphoria, hinged limbs. It was great. And sitting on the toilet was fun too, i could of been there all night. Anyone notice this is like a truth serum or somethin?

But i wish someone would answer post #19.

Oh yeah, what are some problems with chronic use? And how is the tolerance buildup and w/d on this stuff? How bad a toll is this on the liver? Constipation problems?
 
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Thankfully, both dextromethorphan and the serotonergic psychedelics have little effect on respiration, so you are safe there. Make sure you stay far away from opioids and you will be fine. Tolerance is pretty significant with dextromethorphan, if you over-do it, you will completely lose the magic.
 
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(zonk) said:
You can litterally fly around alien worlds. It's like VR but better. U can get open eye visuals too. I've sat on the beach and after it kicked in I started floating over the water. It can either take bits of things ur looking at and create a whole new reality out of them,


Which is incredible in itself but as you say...

(zonk) said:
or just create everthing from scratch. Dissociatives are pretty amazing, but be carefull.

When you are confronted with objects and patterns and movement that bears no similarity. When you see unrecognisable objects morph and evolve into others unrecognisable objects...that is more than pretty amazing.
 
>>Ah but ketamine??>>

I don't really enjoy it, that is unless it is combined with nitrous.

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How does ketamine compare to DXM?>>

For me, they're almost identical, but K causes far less mental clouding.

ebola
 
Riemann Zeta said:
Tolerance is pretty significant with dextromethorphan, if you over-do it, you will completely lose the magic.
:( could i get away with taking 200-250mg 3-4 times a week? Or would tolerance develop (or would i completely "lose the magic" as you said)?

Does anyone have problems sleeping on this? I can't ever seem to sleep on this drug, my eyes are just wide awake.
 
I dunno... DXM did little for me besides leaving me in a shivering helpless huddled mess with a chattering jaw on my bed for a few hours. And the volcano of red vomit didn't really add to the experience very much... 8)
 
Cface said:
:( could i get away with taking 200-250mg 3-4 times a week? Or would tolerance develop (or would i completely "lose the magic" as you said)?

Does anyone have problems sleeping on this? I can't ever seem to sleep on this drug, my eyes are just wide awake.


Tolerance develops even with weekly use at that dosage level. As does loss of magic.

The world may seem completely different now, and taking DXM a few times a week may seem like a wonderful idea. Please keep in mind that DXM does cause definite cognitive deficits with regular use. It is very addictive. It likely causes Serotonin depletion (read: depression).

And yeah, DXM makes it very hard to sleep.

DXM is a useful substance when used as an occasional treat, but dosing 3-4 times a week is just asking for trouble. Please take care of yourself bro. =)
 
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DXM is definitely hallucinogenic at dissociative doses. My girlfriend hallucinated little lemmings who were running around and jumping off the end of her bed. I've seen visions of great metropolises rising and falling in the suggestive shape of a shadow, and gone into a trance in my head where I felt like my life was a DVD, and I was looking at the "Chapter Selection" page, able to play back scenes from my life at will.

DXM is definitely a psychedelic in the same way that other dissociatives are psychedelic, you just have to take a high enough dose, and know what you're dealing with (health risks, possible CYP2D6 deficiency, active ingredients that can be harmful, ability to do extractions, etc). It gets a bum rep from some of the high-brow psychonaut crowd, but I really enjoy it in moderation (that is, high doses, but taken infrequently). I've tried a lot of psychedelics, and it's the most shamanic experience I'd had before I tried DMT.
 
Nope, its from a King Crimson album/song. I just read about the fantasy series however, and it looks very interesting, I'm putting it on my list of stuff to read some day. =)
 
I just read all of the posts here because i recently learned about DXM and am trying to figure out which brand of medicine to get to try it, but for the sake of damage control, i have some curiosities i want to satisfy before i try it. I noticed one post said to avoid opiates. Well opiates have always been my thing. Im prescribed Vicadin and Tramadol. The vicodin doesnt last its usually gone three days after i fill it but i stretch my tramadol because it helps me the most. I take it daily, 6 to 8 in the morning and thats usually it but sometimes ill take another 4 or 6 late in the afternoon. I cant really stop taking it for a long amount of time or i get REALLY WEIRD SCARY DT.... Tramadol though is a synthetic opiate I think? Or quasi opiate? Ive seen it described as an opiate and Ive seen it described as opiate-like. I did read on the interaction label of a popular DXM brand of medicine that Ultram ( tramadol ) is one of the ones on the interaction list, however, Vicadin and Tramadol are on each others MAJOR INTERACTION WARNING list and my doc prescribes them to me together.. 2 trams every 6 and 1 vic 5 times a day as a matter of fact.. So, Im not sure if i should just.. not try this.. because im on tramadol, or not. What do you guys think?
 
With my admittedly limited amount of knowledge on the subject, I would say to steer completely clear of mixing tramadol and DXM... could lead to serotonin syndrome if I understand correctly. However, mixing Vicodin with DXM should not be a problem, as long as you stick to a small dose of both substances... I perosonally have mixed the two in small amounts and have experienced no adverse side-effects. Please use caution as they do potentiate each other to a rather significant degree... NO ONE should start with more than 100mg of DXM due to the possibility of enzyme deficiency, tough if Vicodin actually does something for you then the likelihood of you having said deficiency is rather low.

But please play it safe if you do decide to pursue!
 
From what i understand tramadol has SSRI properties, and taking that with DXM can [possibly] cause you to have a seizure. That's why you want to stay clear of taking SSRI's when doing DXM (as well as psychedelics).

So what exactly do you mean, thenightwatch, about cognitive deficits? Do you mean this can cause permanent cognitive problems such as problem solving, reasoning, etc.?

I understand now that weekly use is unacceptable, but is monthly use, (1-2 month) safe?

Thanks for everyones input, i appreciate it.
 
I don't think that the mental impairment is permanent unless use is chronic and heavy (400mg+ doses several times a week), however, I personally experience a general decline in reasoning for up to a week after using DXM. I perform more poorly on tasks that require logic/problem solving. I have not taken an IQ test after using DXM, however, I am sure that I would score significantly lower than usual. And in the period after use I do things very absent mindedly... lately every time I dex I leave the milk out the next day. Hah.

I would say that monthly DXM use is fine. Bigger doses require more time to recover aftewards.
 
Ah ok. That sounds fine. Yeah i didn't notice any problems cognitively speaking. However, i did get very anti-social and introverted (the opposite of how i act when on dxm) the day after taking it.

lol but i wasn't absent-minded at all like yourself. Then again i havent taken large doses (350mg+) of the stuff either.
 
Watch out with the dissociatives. they can be very addicting despite their trippiness (or perhaps because of it?)

also, yeah, usually every action has a reaction so if you say, experience an insane mind-orgasm on a drug there will be a point where you might feel extremely flaccid.
 
Yeah ok. so im on it now. different set and setting. Very different setting especially. Different people too. Nowhere NEAR as enjoyable. almost miserable. People around here just look at me like i'm weird when im on it versus at Cali noone noticed me.

I'd probably be miserable if i wasn't on it right now.
 
one time when i had this nasty cough that wouldn't go away i drank about a fourth of a bottle of robotussin before school

next thing i know im in science class thinking that i own everyone in the room and that they are somehow dimensionaly seperated from me....weird
 
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