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Why didn't it work last time?

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I posted this in the mega thread why won't it work for me but got no reply. Also, it usually does work for me, it was just this last time.

Last time I rolled it was on a full stomach so it was taking ages for me to come up. My friends and I went home and they insufflated a couple of bumps and had a great time whereas I didn't really come up much although my pupils were dilated more than when I usually roll. I haven't rolled since March however I had tried AMT for the first time a few days ago. I was also extremely tired. I insufflated some when I got home hours later after coming down. I guess the most I got to was + shulgin scale and it was really disappointing. I'm rolling again in 2 weeks and taking a proper dose and not eating (I had a huge meal, filled my stomach, just a couple of hours before rolling which I never usually do when taking anything, I just forgot what time it was) and if this roll is a lot better and how I remember (or don't is how it used to happen) then I will assume the reasons I've suggested here were correct.

To summarise:
Full stomach
Extremely tired
AMT 3 nights ago (I have a feeling this is the main problem as AMT uses up seratonin)

Thanks BL
 
Did you get any amphetamine-like feelings? I can imagine having a full stomach was the culprit in this scenario. I know you stated that your friends took some with good results, but was this gear tested? Maybe they were just feeding off of each others positive vibes but ultimately getting a placebo effect?

Edit : I'm really unsure about the AMT issue.
 
aMT is VERY serotonergic, it has mild MAOi properties that would certainly interfere with the MDMA. I'd also say that's where the main problem lies. You should probably have AT LEAST a week between use of the two drugs, if not more. 2 weeks would probably be a better bet.


I'd say that plus a non-ideal set and setting is what killed your roll
 
Folley said:
aMT is VERY serotonergic, it has mild MAOi properties that would certainly interfere with the MDMA. I'd also say that's where the main problem lies. You should probably have AT LEAST a week between use of the two drugs, if not more. 2 weeks would probably be a better bet.


I'd say that plus a non-ideal set and setting is what killed your roll
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Exactly this, but I've taken MDMA 4 days after aMT and got normal effects, but felt significantly more wrecked after I came down.

Perhaps you got fake/inactive product? Are you 200% sure that you were actually taking MDMA.
 
Diloadid said:
Did you get any amphetamine-like feelings? I can imagine having a full stomach was the culprit in this scenario. I know you stated that your friends took some with good results, but was this gear tested? Maybe they were just feeding off of each others positive vibes but ultimately getting a placebo effect?

Edit : I'm really unsure about the AMT issue.
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Yeah I got the feelings of MDMA but extremely weak ones. The main thing I got from it was pupil dilation and a tiny bit of empathy enhancement or whatever you call it. I didn't get the body high or head high I usually get or being super talkative or wanting to dance a lot or anything...

Folley said:
aMT is VERY serotonergic, it has mild MAOi properties that would certainly interfere with the MDMA. I'd also say that's where the main problem lies. You should probably have AT LEAST a week between use of the two drugs, if not more. 2 weeks would probably be a better bet.


I'd say that plus a non-ideal set and setting is what killed your roll
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Thanks, I'd read about AMT being serotonergic but I didn't realise how much it would effect it. I will have waited nearly 3 weeks the next time I try with what's left and I will take more (than last time, not more than usual) and eat less :)

cyberius said:
Exactly this, but I've taken MDMA 4 days after aMT and got normal effects, but felt significantly more wrecked after I came down.

Perhaps you got fake/inactive product? Are you 200% sure that you were actually taking MDMA.
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I took less than usual and combined with the AMT tolerance is why I think it didn't work as much. I'll update this post :)



I probably wrote this post wrong, it didn't do nothing at all and it was definitely real MDMA. I just meant it was nowhere near as good as it usually is. I definitely wasn't sober and my pupils were extremely dilated and I had a lot more energy than usual when I was peaking (albeit in small waves, just tiny waves compared to usual). My friends were insufflating and had the AMT previously but they didn't get as good effects so maybe it wasn't the best molly however they didn't take as much as they usually do because they had eaten the same amount as me and were reluctant to sniff as much as they usually would (they usually don't take it orally).

I'll update this post when I try again in another week or so but I think it was because usually I don't eat much, especially not the amount and so close to dosing time, and I'd not given much time for the AMT tolerance to go down.

Thanks
 
As you stated, you were tired. That could be your simplest answer.

When I'm tired enough, I can pop multiple at once, still feel nothing and fall asleep.
 
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