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Why are there so many piperazines around now?!?!?

nachosmith said:
Well the law is different in both countries .

USA is harsher if you are caught manufacturing E

Canada is a bit friendlier and you will get like a few years .


Also where else would you americans be getting your E from ? England ?

i suggest you look up where most of the E in the states come from and i think you will find it comes from Canada
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If you look things up on pillreports is seems canada has much more pipes than the us does due to the legality of piperazine. New York seems to have much better pills in circulation than area's in canada that border the northeast. Either canada is shipping 90% of their good shit down here and leaving all the pipes for themselves or more likely the actual good stuff is being made in the us of a
 
I think this is worth a mention: Check out the southwest section of PR. In California they're living it up; flooded with solid, clean MDMA pills.

The really good MDMA pills all seem to come from the same press. Those tapered edges and nice, glossy, solid press is on so many pills. Just the colour and logos are different. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say some superlab in Mexico is cranking out those primo MDMA pills that those lucky Californians get to indulge in all the time.

Up here in Canada where piperazines are legal I hypothesize that the piperazines are imported in bulk from places like China and pressed into pills and are sold off as "ecstasy".

The solution: Make piperazines illegal, the flow from China is immediately cut off. Since MDMA is easier to synth than piperazines domestic production will revert to MDMA and life will be grand again. On the other hand meth is easier to synth than MDMA so the methbombs just might be making the comeback instead of MDMA. :\

I just wish whoever is pressing those pills with that trademark tapered edge, glossy press that they have in California starts sending shipments up here.
 
There's tons of MDMA and good pills around, they just happen to be concentrated in a few scenes and the rest of the stuff around is crap.
 
yeah just seen the september microgram and they just seized an ounce of mdma in Cali

so its definetly out there
 
was wondering if pipz are as big (bad) in the us

Heya, was wondering if i could get a quick response/show of hands to see if piperazines were as much of a nuisance now in the usa as in europe...

was hard to gauge from all the other thread titles, so hope it's ok i made a new one...
 
Yes pipes are becoming all to common in the USA, fuck less then 3-4 years ago it wasn't common at all to get pills adultrated with pipes and other bullshit.
 
sorry to hear that. oddly enough in the uk before there appeared any fake pills (pipz), there was this whole retarded market for pipz legal highs :s
 
never came across a pipe pill (crosses fingers). i only roll now about once a year though. hopefully pipes, MDxx's, cathinones, and whatever the fuck else that can be passed off as MDMA to unwitting customers doesn't blow up in the U.S. any more than it already has.

from reading microgram it seems a lot of those piperzine pills are in the South. maybe theres someone down there makin them? just speculation...
 
^ Check out Canada's section of pillreports man. We're likely the worst flooded area for them and a lot of the US's pills come from here.

California on the other hand can kiss my ass. ;)
 
Well I guess the "Recession" has hit drug dealers too, and they need to make more profit, thus sell bunk pills. Dope has gone to shit in most areas too, not like it was when I started in 2006. Not worth it anymore....
 
Like eevryone has said its just greed cheaper to make more profit ratio. iI like you would be ok with it if it was 2cs or methylon or anything other than pipes really
 
As long as people continue to buy them, they'll continue to churn them out. There are those, who for some odd reason, like pipes. Then, there are those who have never had a decent pill (common in areas like mine) and don't know any better.

I stopped buying pills a long time ago. If more people would stop buying untested pills, then the manufacters would probably take the hint and stop mass producing pipes. I really don't see where they would have a choice. The way they see it as of now is that WE'RE the ones who don't have a choice.
 
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