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Why are some people "bad at drugs"?

And to illustrate Shammmys point, perhaps, round my way theres a bloke who walks around in shorts all the time (not MailMonkey) and mutters shit to himself while living, no doubt, in shit. Inventively, the local population call him "Shorts".

He's an ex-senior lecturer in Law at University of Wales, Aberystwyth.

Alcohol eh?
 
Alcohol eh?

Alcohol or drugs its how you (not you personally) choose to use/abuse them, drugs & alcolol are for enjoyment, once you pass that line its time to stick on the brakes and have a word with yourself...
imo

Luckily never beed addicted to anything apart from nicotine:| which I am slowly trying to cut out my life...
 
It really is just as easy and straightforward as that, Blue ;)

Of course I know its not, suppose I have been fortunate that way, MDMA was my drug of choice for years, not addictive, well not physically, psychologically it certainly can be, for years I never went out drinking and didn't have a pill/mdma no matter what circumstances, family doo's were always better on it;) (just had to remember to keep the gurning in check)
 
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And to illustrate Shammmys point, perhaps, round my way theres a bloke who walks around in shorts all the time (not MailMonkey) and mutters shit to himself while living, no doubt, in shit. Inventively, the local population call him "Shorts".

He's an ex-senior lecturer in Law at University of Wales, Aberystwyth.

Bloke round our way like that, everyone calls him Gandhi (shorts and specs) :?
 
You cant separate addicts into those who sink and those who swim, and go on to say all those that sink do so because they are dumb and have no desire to sort their lives out.

And who's to say whos life is crap and whos is great? You could be homeless and yet more content than the man with a roof over his head, girlfriend etc.

Life is a long road and none of us know whats around the corner, so we shouldnt be so quick to state what we are and what we aren't. Everyones got a bit of everything in them and often its just a chain of events and circumstances that bring one or the other to the fore.
 
You could be homeless and yet more content than the man with a roof over his head, girlfriend etc.

That's bash imo.
I will play my cards on this one I have been homeless before & take my word for it, it fucking sucks big time. Waking up after sleeping in a burned out factory to see snow on the floor & your hands have turned blue is not good, to be so hungry you fall over from lack of food, to have to fucking beg in a subway is so bad.
There are many other things I could add but I refuse to.

I have to ask have you ever been without a home & had to do those things?
If not you can't have an opinion on the subject as you have NO 1st hand experience of it.
 
Gotta agree with Farmaz on this one, b&w. Know what you mean and agree on the general sentiment, but on the specific case I really can't imagine anyone being actually content sleeping rough. Not at this time of year anyway. Was precisely that situation that got me on the scag in the first place and I doubt I'm alone in that. Romantic life on the road is all well and good... till it's pissing with rain and minus ten and you're shivering and drenched on a park bench :|
 
Gotta agree with Farmaz on this one, b&w. Know what you mean and agree on the general sentiment, but on the specific case I really can't imagine anyone being actually content sleeping rough. Not at this time of year anyway. Was precisely that situation that got me on the scag in the first place and I doubt I'm alone in that. Romantic life on the road is all well and good... till it's pissing with rain and minus ten and you're shivering and drenched on a park bench :|

Agree 100%
This aint NO Jack Kerouac crap were talking here, this is England where it rains, cold, dark etc.
I think people have the wrong idea about this subject & it makes me mad as hell, I am 99.9% sure badandwicked has NEVER had the life dealings we have had.
1 night on the street you soon learn it is NO joke & your very sad about what you got into, I am sure only people that have been without a home really know how long a night can be & how cold it is too (well people kicking Gear know about the long ass night times too)
 
But I think bad&w's point that you can be less content with more money still holds tho.
 
I believe money doesn't make you happy per se, however you need to have your essentials, as long as you have a roof over your head and a fridge full of food you can be just as happy as the guy with four ferraris in his garage, but you need to have a minimum of safety and comfort, not sleeping it rough on park benches.
 
My wife has worked with homeless people for the last 10 years or so, in small charity run hostels, and for the council.

I honestly don't think she's ever met one homeless person who was "happy" with their lot. There are people who seem happy on a summers day when they've had their dig and they've got a 4 pack, but deep down I don;t think there's much happiness there in the winter when they're having to be soaked in a bath fully clotheed and still have their socks and shit encrusted underwear cut off them (along with chunks of skin and flesh) ...the constant fear of violence, rape, having your scant possessions stolen from you...

I've never been homeless, and neither has she...
 
For myself even as fucked up as I have got I would never say I had a bad time with drugs.
I only ever saw people that were bad with drugs in a mess with their life when those people were kind of dumb, I have known some real rag tag Junkies that were uch a mess but they were every time stupid & to use a term I don't like a chav type person.

I think on EADD we are all professional dopefiends & I know I have worked hard for many years to be as good as I am at it.

Is this the kind of people you mean Farmaz ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIbpt1aDFqM

The blonde girl is a total mess. None too bright either. You cant help but feel sorry for them. I would not class gypsies, or 'new age travellers' in the same group at all whatsoever ever.
 
Im sorry I didnt really mean my statement how it came across , it was late and I was over illustrating my point which is as Ismene said about contentment.

I've not had a home, but I've always had a roof over my head. i'm under no illusions though about the realities of being homeless.

I think my point was you can have someone standing in a house, with 'it all' saying "look at me, I've got it all figured out, i'm sorted' where in fact in their life is utter miserable shit, filled with unhappy relationships and unfulfilment only they don't realise it.

Reality is only a matter of perception.

In our never ending quest for inner contentment and true happiness the man with 3 Mercs on the drive may have just as far to travel as the loser in the corner.
 
Im sorry I didnt really mean my statement how it came across , it was late and I was over illustrating my point which is as Ismene said about contentment.

I've not had a home, but I've always had a roof over my head. i'm under no illusions though about the realities of being homeless.

I think my point was you can have someone standing in a house, with 'it all' saying "look at me, I've got it all figured out, i'm sorted' where in fact in their life is utter miserable shit, filled with unhappy relationships and unfulfilment only they don't realise it.

Reality is only a matter of perception.

In our never ending quest for inner contentment and true happiness the man with 3 Mercs on the drive may have just as far to travel as the loser in the corner.

Irie! %)
 
Im sorry I didnt really mean my statement how it came across , it was late and I was over illustrating my point which is as Ismene said about contentment.

I've not had a home, but I've always had a roof over my head. i'm under no illusions though about the realities of being homeless.

I think my point was you can have someone standing in a house, with 'it all' saying "look at me, I've got it all figured out, i'm sorted' where in fact in their life is utter miserable shit, filled with unhappy relationships and unfulfilment only they don't realise it.

Reality is only a matter of perception.

In our never ending quest for inner contentment and true happiness the man with 3 Mercs on the drive may have just as far to travel as the loser in the corner.

I believe its all about being gratefull for what you do have. I remember when i could get O-dt I was in that kind of mind state a lot of the time, and was deeply contented as a result. Strangers including women would talk to me, i must have looked more approachable and happy or something, as this doesnt happen all that often otherwise. I can only fleetingly recapture it without d.r.u.g.s.
 
Gotta agree with Farmaz on this one, b&w. Know what you mean and agree on the general sentiment, but on the specific case I really can't imagine anyone being actually content sleeping rough.

I'm with Issy on this (this is happening more and more frequently - help).

It was a simple illustration of how 'happiness' doesn't / shouldn't depend on socioeconomic status. I don't think it was an attempt to trivialise rough sleeping at all. It was simply one end of a heavily-polarised spectrum of living conditions, aspirations, lifestyles and the like.

Maybe the fact farmaz seemed to take offence to it (wrongly IMO, but I understand these experiences leave deep psychic wounds) and responded with an emotive post detailing the abject nature of actual homelessness stirred up your own memories of the experience.

It sounds horiffic and I'm sorry to hear that both of you had to endure it. Yet I think it was just being used as an extreme example of our materialist definition of 'haves' and 'have nots'.

I'm sure in the cold light of day you'll agree - I often say "I'd rather die of AIDS / Cancer" or kill myself. All of these have had an impact on my life directly or indirectly, yet I don't genuinely think it'd be more fun to do these things than whtever I'm comparing them to, so I couldn't take exception to people who used them to illustrate a point. If anything it highlights the fact that homelessness isn't romantic, and the absurdity of its continued existence in a society that conditions us to covet unnecessary baubles and displays of wealth.

And yes, I've slept rough (admittedly not long-term) and dossed down in mate's houses and squats for years, which ain't the same thing and yet it's still stressful and unsettling.

As for the rest of my life, there are some other things I've experienced (too personal to be discussed here) that people either use in similar examples or actually mention in a frivolous context. Most of the time I'll ignore them, as will the majority of EADDers. Unless I feel there's a genuine point to be made about offensive views or (occasionally - I won't lie) when I'm in a huff.

Shambles, I know you're aware of the above, but I'm just re-stating it here, because I think it's important that people judge things based on the context they're said in. It's a big part of what makes EADD tick without too much modstick action. People don't take things personally unless it's intended that way.

No apologies necessary, b&w, but thank you for clarifying it for farmaz's benefit. Says a lot about your own maturity. And all-round coolness as an EADDer. :)

Anyway, homelessness isn't the topic. Cut it out, you lot!
 
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