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why are quality psychedelics so hard to find?

To butt into this discussion, I would argue that it's in everyone's benefit to learn how the things they use work. It's certainly not possible to do it all at once but there is a huge functional difference between one who gives up trying to understand anything (save for the one thing which makes him money) and one who tends towards understanding everything. There is a hidden fortune in living such a life - after exploring multiple disciplines a person begins to see patterns which are present in all things. This is something which someone who specialises is unable to do. I guess it all comes down to if you see knowledge as a means to an end or an end in and of itself.


Learning more about the world is indeed rewarding, and offers valuable perspective, but the potential number of subjects to be studied is so vast it is rather pretentious to say any particular one is worth doing at the expense of others, beyond matters that have great utility for living. So first would be survival skills (not as important in industrialized societies as agricultural ones), second would be reading/writing/basic math which serve as a foundation for most further learning, from here we'd go back to point one and say career relevant knowledge would be paramount given the grim meat-hook realities of existence. After that, then what? Why something like organic chemistry over light mechanics, horticulture, art, history, physics, biology, philosophy, etc., etc.?

Also, someone who specializes will realize how much they don't know better. Dilettantes won't gain an appreciation of the immense nuance and subtlety in every field. There are people who spend their entire lives studying a single species of beetle, and even then they can't know everything there is to know about the subject! I'm not sure what patterns you're speaking about, but it seems that believing such things exist is liable to make one think they know a lot more than they actually do. Trying to know the world is like trying to fit all the ocean in a single glass.
 
Quality hallucinogens became harder to find with the flood of amphetamines and cocaine.
The government polluted the drug market to capitalize on drug addicts with seriously unclean substances and deter us from the better mind altering substances we love that give us new ideas and open doors.

I'd sure love to run into the circle of acid about now.
been waaaay too long since I fucked with that stuff.

Quality hallucinogens are going around though.
MXE is still available and I just got some shrooms not long ago from some buddies.
It's possible if I bug them enough they might be able to get more.

Shrooms are quality hallucinogens if you ask me. So is MXE.

IF you really have trouble finding a hallucinogen to get high from, you either don't have trustworthy friends or you don't have a credit card. Hallucinogens are sold right on the internet for anyone to buy now days. All you have to do is look up the directions online how to use or manipulate the items you bought into being a drug.

I've never known anyone who could make acid. If I did, I would beg the shit out of them to teach me. I'm a very bright person and would pick up on something like that easy.

Shrooms can be grown no problem. Check out the shroomery forum.

Weed is a hallucinogen and can be grown also. You just have to eat a huge concentrated batch of it (super concentrated hash brownies or something) to have a real trip above smoking some bowls. It only takes 3 months from seed to buds with which you could make some gnarly brownies that will make you see things.

and one who tends towards understanding everything.
Like me.
Learn everything you guys are doing thoroughly.
I agree. It makes you a better person to understand what it is you are doing and to be able to do it for yourself repeatedly without harm.

I think a lot of the original drugs have natural origins and basically aren't very harmful in moderation. (DMT, weed, shrooms, Datura in low controlled doses etc etc)
These are the things the indians used to use to graduate their young into adults.
By sending them off into the woods for three days delirious on Datura and when they came back and told their spiritual journey, they became men.

I've actually done a super heroic dose of Datura and ended up in the hospital after tripping out my mom. She called the ambulence and I went on the ride of my life. lol
I was still triping balls for three days seeing spirits and shit out the back sliding glass door to my room. Having your stomach pumped through a catheter while having an out of body experience on Datura sucks, man. I think I would have enjoyed it otherwise though. It was kinda cool, I had no idea what my body was doing the whole time.

I can see how Amanita Muscaria now can be beneficial as a deliriant in this respect as well. I'm sure it turns you into a man when you hit threshold right. lol

I think besides the lovely MXE that is currently available I don't mind my hallucinogen selection being natural. It's odd that some of these synthesized chemicals seem to take on single molucule structures as well which almost seems like something that could be natural even though it's synthesized. How can something we make not come eventually from natural resources too. Yet it's hard to decipher between good synths and bad ones.

It seems like most of the plants don't really kill you so easily like the synthetic stuff can.
I never heard of anyone dieing on shrooms or Datura despite how powerful they are.
Just maybe dumb shit they did while under the influence.

PRetty much everyone I know who tried a threshold dose of Datura ended up in the hospital, and that's mostly because their sitters either misunderstood the situation or were not capable of handling them when high. Either that, or they had no sitter.

If you went into the woods for a few days on datura alone I'm sure you'd come back fine.
The perfect dose of mushrooms feels extremely good on the body and mind, as good as any synth I have tried. DMT is where the colors are. MXE has teachings for you in visions.
They are all available right now.

Nothing holding ya'll back but the knowledge to use the tools.
A lot of hallucinogens aren't for kids either. But that is what ends up happening. Youngsters get their hands on this stuff they can't understand and it becomes more obscured in public and misunderstood.

I think proper education will play a role in keeping hallucinogens prominent throughout current society. That won't happen until the stereotype of the bad trip and the hospital ride is dropped. The more scared people are of hallucinogens, the harder they become to find. Also people hate huge body loads, and that is quite common on hallucinogens.
Nobody seems to be able to see the benefit outweighs the negative body loads.
The doors opened are worth it. A higher consciousness is gained.

What's a few body loads between you and the truth and a world of fun and mystery? Hehe
If you don't have to hide your hallucinogen use, I find it becomes much funner and easier on your body and your mind while tripping.
 
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I'm not sure what patterns you're speaking about, but it seems that believing such things exist is liable to make one think they know a lot more than they actually do. Trying to know the world is like trying to fit all the ocean in a single glass.

The patterns I'm talking about are contained in the one thing that's present in all disciplines, art forms and practices. It's one of those obvious, right under your nose things. That one thing is, ofcourse, yourself. You are present no matter what you learn and learning a lot of things lets you dig deeper and deeper into yourself because when you change all of your ideas (in the pursuit of knowledge) and all of your feelings (through the process of creating art), you end up seeing that which doesn't change. That is you. This is something which is missed when specialising. I would argue that it's still critically important to master at least one discipline, but it's just as important to not get stuck on it and forego venturing into greener fields.
 
Well yes, and of course that probably makes my opinion biased by definition. :) But, for instance, my dad is a lawyer and despite the fact that I'm not a lawyer by profession, he still expects me to have a rudimentary understanding of how American criminal law works. What I am specifically lamenting is that the modern educational system spends proportionately much more time and effort teaching non-science subjects, with the assumption that science is somehow a "highly specialized discipline" rather than just a good way to understand how the world works. We are comprised of carbon compounds, it just seems to me that organic chemistry should be taught to kids in a cursory manner like english and history is. I might not have done a good job earlier in the thread of articulating my opinion.

I wish more people thought like you. It seems like so many people just tend to say "Oh, I can't do math and natural sciences" because it's: a) not intuitive b) bad teacher c) not enough effort put in by the student.
 
You are living in a golden age of abundant psychedelics. If you live in the US at least you have access to more varieties and types of psychedelic sacraments than any time in history.

You have DIY - There are a variety of "RC" true psychedelics available at the click of a mouse - some still unscheduled.

QFT. And nowadays it's very easy to see how "pure" or high quality your psychedelics are for a decent price by sending it into labs to get tested. To me the adundance of high quality psychedelics available makes my knees buckle.
 
I know it's just a case of not having the right connects, but here in NY it's getting hard to find quality LSD, has been for some time now. Most people are selling 2C's and RC's as Doses, which is sad really. And I don't mind doing said chemicals, I just want to know what they are so I can add them to my list of chemicals ingested.

Had some people get ahold of a few vials supposedly made by The Family, but haven't seen anything half as good as that since last year. Amazing, pure clean stuff. Most beautiful experience of my life.

Really hoping to get a hold of a vial for myself. No idea how often that stuff comes around though.
 
they aren't for me, i can find some bomb LSD and practically any other drug i want here in dah ATL!!

it's probably your location and/or not having good connects
 
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