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Opioids Who uses opioids as anti-depressants?

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Bluelighter
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I'd like to hear stories from people who use opioids as anti-depressants. Essentially people who formerly used other meds like tricyclics, SSRIs, Antipsychotics, etc just to find out for themselves that the only meds that work with few side effects other than addiction, are opioids.

What were your experiences?

Personally, I find them to be the most superior antidepressants for the short-term....like 2-4 weeks. WDs after that are not too bad-far better than any side effect from all teh other meds after 2-4 weeks.
 
ya using opiates as an anti -depressant is essentially ignoring your problems/issues and is asking for a much worse situation due to wd anxiety/depression. plus good luck trying to control a self-medication opiate regiment lol
 
If opiates could be delivered without causing tolerance and minimal withdrawal, would you have to reevaluate your position?
 
For some reason the edit button won't work, sorry for the double post.

I even see a way you could potentially, and easily, "cap" the euphoria(and other effects) so you neither feel a rush and can't OD.
 
I have kind of used Tramadol in the past for this kind of self medication.

It has quite powerful anti-depressant effects and I have found the WD to be quite manageable.
 
YellowNikes said:
ya using opiates as an anti -depressant is essentially ignoring your problems/issues and is asking for a much worse situation due to wd anxiety/depression. plus good luck trying to control a self-medication opiate regiment lol
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Arent you masking the problem by using SSRI's as well? Of course, no way are anti-depressants any better than opiates for depression.

I know of several people that use hydrocodone for over 5 years for depression & use it successfully. Some how they get it from their doctors for other reasons obviously. Will they have withdrawals if they try to quit? Absolutely, just like have huge side effects with quitting SSRI's.

Also, these people havent raised there in take much past several years. They dont do it to get high, just to take away their depression.

We've had this kind of thread before on here & its always turned into some good discussions. There will always be people that cant control their opiates & are complete addicts that will think it cant be used for that reason because of what opiates have done to them.

Opiates are not for everyone, bottom line!
 
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TheLostBoys said:
I know of several people that use hydrocodone for over 5 years for depression & use it successfully.
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I've heard of this before, and I'm really, really surprised by it. I'm not sure how, exactly, hydrocodone might work to abate the symptoms of depression long-term.

I know that, in my experience and taken regularly, tramadol worked to combat my depression better than anything I've ever taken before. But that's not too surprising, being that tramadol does have certain SNRI properties.
 
If opiates could be delivered without tolerance or withdrawal, you'd have a miracle drug. But medicinal chemists have been trying to do that for upwards of 200 years to nosuccess so I don't think they'll start discovering new ones now.
 
sekio said:
If opiates could be delivered without tolerance or withdrawal, you'd have a miracle drug. But medicinal chemists have been trying to do that for upwards of 200 years to nosuccess so I don't think they'll start discovering new ones now.
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Excellent point......I remember reading how doctors would prescribe Vicodin for depression back in the 50's, I had even seen ads for it. Thing is, SSRI's can cause serious side effects as well & can be very bad for young children so I would accept the trade off with the less severe opiates like hydrocodone, tramadol & codeine.
 
Remember all those other antidepressants from the 1950s and 1960s? Dexamyl (dextroamphetamine and amobarbital in one pill, yummy!), Desbutal (methamphetamine and pentobarbital in one pill).

Antidepressants have changed a lot in the past few decades. I self-medicate with opiates and I don't really think its for depression, but its certainly for anxiety.
 
There's a frog that excretes a substance (through its skin, I believe) with unbelievable pain-killing properties without there being nearly as much potential for physical dependence and addiction.... supposedly. But who knows how effective it would be at treating depression, and who knows exactly how viable an option it would be...
 
verso said:
There's a frog that excretes a substance (through its skin, I believe) with unbelievable pain-killing properties without there being nearly as much potential for physical dependence and addiction.... supposedly. But who knows how effective it would be at treating depression, and who knows exactly how viable an option it would be...
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Where can I pick one up at, Wally world? LoL!
 
There have been studies in using opiates, specifically OxyContin, as an anti-depressant in Europe with positive results. Certainly, opiates affect dopamine receptors in the human brain which provide euphoria. So perhaps opiates can have anti-depressant properties. Certain synthetic opiates, like tramadol, resemble tricyclic antidepressants in chemical makeup/molecule structure.
 
Also, it was mentioned that opiates cause physical dependence and very uncomfortable withdrawal symptoms. However, many patients who have taken antidepressants for a while and either quit them drastically or taper down too fast claim to undergo uncorfortable withdrawal symptoms as well. Perhaps not as severe as opiates but many commonly report experiencing "brain zaps" where it feels like an electric charge going through their body when they move their eyes or head.
 
verso said:
Yeah be sure to pick me up a couple too ;)
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you guys might be talking about the phyllomedusa bicolor. I know its used as a religious sacrament of some sort in certain ethnic groups societies. It's been known to help with depression and other problems of the sort. Sorry this post is off topic but i thought i'd put it up just in case anyone was curious. As to the OP, i think your gonna hear a ton of different answers and opinions on this board. If your seriously thinking about self medicating depression with opiates then start with the lowest dose of the the weakest opiate and keep it that way, if possible.

Be smart and safe with your body, as always.



Big fan of your avatar by the way verso. I like your style
 
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