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who is cheating?

^Perhaps we're not meant to be monogamous, and if you're making a case for open relationships then I agree with you; but cheating, ie. going behind your partner's back and doing something that you know would hurt them (otherwise you'd tell him, right?) is entirely different from that. It's one thing for you and your SO to have multiple sexual partners and be open about it, and agree on it. It's another thing to lie to them and basically completely disrespect them. It's not cuz we're meant to be polygamous that cheating's okay.
 
^For some of us it works straight away. For others, like me, where I am in my development, I need a bit more variety, experience and freedom.

I aspire to have an open monogamous relationship, but I don't worry about it, as I am attracted to a whole lot of people and a whole lot of people are attracted to me - I never have to marry if I don't truly find the right person...and that's OK.

Our mammal side leads us to be polyamorous by nature, but our human consciousness goes more towards monogamy - it's not entirely a social construct, or one of oppression and establishment bondage (but it can be) - when we feel we need wide variety in terms of lovers - this just indicates that in our development, a monogamous relationship is not for us, until we have had more experiences, fulfilled more fantasies, and "lived a lil".

I do, however, highly recommend tantric practices to anyone with a FWB/partner they have seen for a while, and are looking elsewher for variety - indulge in more sexual positions, and practices, instead of a variety of lovers - otherwise apart from those odd rare encounters - you will find it difficult to attain truly divine sex, because you are channeling energy into more than one place, and no one place gets enough to make it a truly worthwhile expenditure of energy.

This is written, and this is also from my observations from my sex life the past 10 years. Try it before you knock it, if you don't like what I am saying, and reap the rewards.
 
littlepenguin - as a vegetarian, I still avoid other animal products (milk, eggs, etc.) and I do own mostly cotton. I will wear something made of animal products if I bought it before I changed my lifestyle but I won't go buy something leather NOW. The past is the past, I'm not going to waste some shoes or a shirt or something, as throwing it out won't change the fact that I got it in the first place. I could go over each and everything that you said to let you know what I do in regards to each, but I don't feel that's necessary. I won't deny that I don't crave a hamburger sometimes. But, I won't have one.

If the OP's married fuck buddy is NOT in a monogamous relationship, then there is nothing wrong with it. But then there wouldn't be any question at all. And MOST marriages are monogamous. The OP should respect that.
 
^Not really - why respect something that is already broken? If the cheater is fucking the OP, there is something wrong with their marriage - they are choosing to take advantage of their spouse still until they work out how/if they're going to break up...they are treating their sexless/sexually unsatisfied self with the OP's loving.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the OP, they are just getting some action.

The cheater is the only one disrespecting the marriage, because they are not being honest and breaking our with their spouse/working out whether they just need to regroup and put in extra effort together.
 
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B1tO'RoughJack said:
^Not really - why respect something that is already broken? If the cheater is fucking the OP, there is something wrong with her marriage - they are choosing to take advantage of their spouse still until they work out how/if they're going to break up...they are treating their sexless/sexually unsatisfied self with the OP's loving.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the OP, they are just getting some action.

The cheater is the only one disrespecting the marriage, because they are not being honest and breaking our with their spouse/whether they need to regroup and put in extra effort together.
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I agree with this 100%...well said
 
B1tO'RoughJack said:
^Not really - why respect something that is already broken? If the cheater is fucking the OP, there is something wrong with her marriage - they are choosing to take advantage of their spouse still until they work out how/if they're going to break up...they are treating their sexless/sexually unsatisfied self with the OP's loving.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the OP, they are just getting some action.

The cheater is the only one disrespecting the marriage, because they are not being honest and breaking our with their spouse/working out whether they just need to regroup and put in extra effort together.
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Nah, it's all done behind the wifes back. And that is totally unfair on her, no matter how wrecked the marriage is. The wife will end up hurt, and that is because of the wrong actions of both the cheater and the cheaters accomplice.
 
if I could I would punish cheating with death sentence.... you want to fuck new set of genitals? just make it clear to your older ones omg otherwise your just piece of shit on two legs
 
DOB said:
you want to fuck new set of genitals? just make it clear to your older ones omg otherwise your just piece of shit on two legs
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So true. You don't think your relationship is working? Let them know. End it. Then carry on.

Lying to them and cheating is such an easy, pathetic way around problems.
 
This place is so critical, keeping in mind this is a drug forum. I mean, I've read so many posts of people bitching about how nobody understands their addiction etc. Sex can be the same way, I've known a lot of people who dearly love their partners but can't help but cheat on them. It's just the way they are, doesn't change the fact that they love their partners. Monogamy is imposed on people, it's this weird culture we're living in that makes us suffer from very petty shit.

I mean, how different is an heroin addict that can't get smack and/or methadone to feel well, and someone in dire need of a fuck? Both parties feel like utter shite if they can't get what they need.
 
1394 said:
This place is so critical, keeping in mind this is a drug forum. I mean, I've read so many posts of people bitching about how nobody understands their addiction etc. Sex can be the same way, I've known a lot of people who dearly love their partners but can't help but cheat on them. It's just the way they are, doesn't change the fact that they love their partners. Monogamy is imposed on people, it's this weird culture we're living in that makes us suffer from very petty shit.

I mean, how different is an heroin addict that can't get smack and/or methadone to feel well, and someone in dire need of a fuck? Both parties feel like utter shite if they can't get what they need.
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Difference is that doing drugs doesn't hurt anyone else. Cheating on someone by definition is hurting them, otherwise it wouldn't be cheating.

To the OP, fuck what everyone else thinks. I've never had sex with a married girl but I've had sex with girls with boyfriends and I never felt bad about it. It's ironic because they were the easiest girls to get with and I didn't have to try hard at all. They were gonna cheat on their boyfriends with somebody and it just happened to be me. Now if you personally feel bad about what you're doing, then stop. But I don't see any reason why you should feel bad.
 
I am dissapointed in mankind,cheating is considered ok thing by too many people.......

its like the Sodoma & Gomorrah story,once these horrible things become widespread and accepted by general public,when being asshole become normal,god came and nuked the place from orbit
 
Effuzion said:
Difference is that doing drugs doesn't hurt anyone else. Cheating on someone by definition is hurting them, otherwise it wouldn't be cheating.
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That made me chuckle, yeah drugs don't hurth the people around you 8)

"yes,I agree....and that way is way of disrespectfull chronic asshole"

You're not understanding where I'm coming from.

"its like the Sodoma & Gomorrah story,once these horrible things become widespread and accepted by general public,when being asshole become normal,god came and nuked the place from orbit"

Yeah man, your Christian God is a nice guy 8) Killing homos and shit 8)
 
well it is possible to use drugs without hurting people. i do it all the time

being a massive drug addict is a bit different

the thing is that everyone is focusing on the morals of the story but where i'm coming from is why would you settle for someone who is married when you could have someone single?

purely because the shit might hit the fan at any time

as for bible talk- i think i can safely say that not everyone on this site believes that book.

you're entitled to believe it but that story kind of follows the same naff primitive logic that would suggest that all the ladyboys in thailand made god angry hence the tsunami which i can tell you is some bullshit i just made up
 
1394 said:
That made me chuckle, yeah drugs don't hurth the people around you 8)
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If you use drugs responsibly they don't hurt anyone. I would also argue that even if you're a serious addict who lies and steals it's not the drugs that hurt the people around you, it's your behavior. Drugs may be the catalyst for that behavior but I've been on both sides of the spectrum and drugs alone are definitely not the problem.
 
^totally agree.

The drug use is just a symptom...of masochism, and also innate qualities too.

It wasn't just homos - it was people indulging in vice to an extreme.

The forces of nature (or for personification, which a lot of people appear to need to relate to the cosmos - GOD/ALLAH/JAH/YAHWE) and the cycle of creation, balance and destruction destroys things which create unbalance - this is why we have diseases, natural famines, infestations, tsunamis and other storms, because the universal balance is warning us of nature's power - that if we do not create balance in our environment, then we will be wiped out, so new creation can start again.

It is inevitable at some point in the future, but it would be nice if we could postpone it by doing the right things at last.

After all it is prophesized this is the end of the age of vice (Kali Yuga) sometime in the next 100 years, so it looks like our efforts our paying off, bit by bit - we just need to make more efforts as individuals to find ONENESS.
1394 said:
That made me chuckle, yeah drugs don't hurth the people around you 8)

"yes,I agree....and that way is way of disrespectfull chronic asshole"

You're not understanding where I'm coming from.

"its like the Sodoma & Gomorrah story,once these horrible things become widespread and accepted by general public,when being asshole become normal,god came and nuked the place from orbit"

Yeah man, your Christian God is a nice guy 8) Killing homos and shit 8)
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Effuzion said:
If you use drugs responsibly they don't hurt anyone. I would also argue that even if you're a serious addict who lies and steals it's not the drugs that hurt the people around you, it's your behavior. Drugs may be the catalyst for that behavior but I've been on both sides of the spectrum and drugs alone are definitely not the problem.
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I'd say then... that cheating responsibly doesn't hurt anyone too.

I think you all have mistaken what my analogy was really about 8)
 
1394 said:
I'd say then... that cheating responsibly doesn't hurt anyone too.

I think you all have mistaken what my analogy was really about 8)
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Like I said before cheating means you're not telling your boyfriend/husband/wife/farm animal and they're not ok with it. If you have an open relationship, yeah that's different. But then it wouldn't be cheating.
 
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