I love them. I get a feeling that is somewhere between low dose dxm and low dose lsd. My dose of choice is around 5-8 grams worth. I definitely enjoy them more when smoking weed as well. I find it can be decently psychedelic at that dose. Lots of CEVs, a body buzz, strange syrupy thought process...it can be make me manic, and then after a while quite sleepy, and if I let myself sleep they definitely bend and vivify my dreams for me. I honestly think they get a real bad rap, much worse than they deserve any how. It's not gonna be as clean as some chemical rc, but it is a pretty decent ally in my books.