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Who cares if it's DOx?

StingRei

StingRei

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So I'm pretty sure that what is going around is DOx. It takes about one hour to start kicking in and it's 2-3 hours in before you're full-on, then you're in it for the next good handful of hours and it takes a long time to fully come down.

My question is, who cares if it's DOx? It feels euphoric and physically pleasant, and (in small dosages at least) is fairly socially manageable. Is DOx any weaker than real LSD when it comes to it's psychedelic potency?

I've been thinking of stepping it up. I took two quarter doses and then a half dose. I'm thinking of getting 3 tabs and using a full tab followed by two tabs a few days later. This stuff is going for an insane 15US per hit, only goes down to 13 or 12 when you buy at least a handful.
 
1) Because it's not what you asked/payed for. If someone buys a tab of acid they are expecting it to be LSD and experience it's particular experience. If they wanted a DOx they would go looking for a DOx; not LSD. If people are selling DOx blotters they should sell it as such and not call it acid or LSD; call it a DOx.

2) Because not everyone reacts the same to these things. For some people DOx's are incredibly rough of an experience. The unexpectedly long duration can really mess with people as well. If I take a tab of acid at noon I can expect to get to sleep by midnight; not the case with a DOx

There's a million reasons why people care that it's a DOx and not LSD but #1 is the biggest.

Think methamphetamine or piperazines in ecstasy. Who cares if it's not MDMA? I sure as hell do.
 
i think one reason to care if its DOx is because DOx doesnt have the safety profile of LSD. so where u could take a ton of LSD and be fine, if you take that much DOx you might have some health problems.

also DOx has a lot longer trip, which can be pretty scary to someone expecting the trip to end.
 
LSD is a thousand times better than DOx if your pushing the limits....

Erowid classifies an overdose of DOB to be 3.5mg.... Some idiot gave me something like 10mg. We were too fucked up to do anything except just sit there and feel intense.....

Now on a comparably intense level of LSD, I felt wonderful, free, clear minded, ego was shattered... Beautiful experience and that is all i can say...
 
IMO it's the safety factor. A strip of acid will be fine - intense, but fine. A strip of DOx blotter (particularly DOI) would be a totally different story!
 
I do. I've taken lsd at least 30 times. I've taken DOx once on accident. I took one blotter to have a nice light social trip. I was not planning on tripping for 24 hours, yet I did. I like LSD, and I enjoyed the DOx. I like LSD much more, it's a far superior psychedelic IMO. If I pay for LSD I want LSD, if I wanted DOx I would pay for DOx.
 
StingRei said:
So I'm pretty sure that what is going around is DOx. It takes about one hour to start kicking in and it's 2-3 hours in before you're full-on, then you're in it for the next good handful of hours and it takes a long time to fully come down.

My question is, who cares if it's DOx? It feels euphoric and physically pleasant, and (in small dosages at least) is fairly socially manageable. Is DOx any weaker than real LSD when it comes to it's psychedelic potency?

I've been thinking of stepping it up. I took two quarter doses and then a half dose. I'm thinking of getting 3 tabs and using a full tab followed by two tabs a few days later. This stuff is going for an insane 15US per hit, only goes down to 13 or 12 when you buy at least a handful.
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It's a different drug with different effects. You can't really compare psychedelic potency between such different compounds objectively. Different people get different effects from each.

The big reason DOx tabs getting passed of as LSD is such a problem, as others have mentioned, is that people often take several hits of acid at once. Taking 5 'normal' doses of acid at once is perfectly safe, assuming you can handle the intensity of the trip itself that is. 5 times the intended dose of a DOx may be into physically dangerous OD territory. At the very least, it'll probably be a very unpleasant night or two waiting for that excessive DOx dose to wear off.

I've never tried DOx compounds myself but from what I hear, they are very similar to 2Cs but last much longer. That doesn't sound anywhere near as pleasant as acid to me. 2Cs last long enough on their own at higher doses and are generally much safer to push high doses with than DOx compounds.

If someone sold me 'LSD tabs' that I was pretty sure were a DOx, even if I decided I liked the DOx, I would be far too pissed off at the unscrupulous dealer selling them to give him/her any more of my $$. It'd be like if I wanted meth and found someone selling high dose meth tablets as ecstasy; even if I'm pretty sure I know what the compound is and that it's the one I actually want, I wouldn't want to encourage that kind of dangerous dishonesty on the local scene.
 
I have plenty of DOI, if I wanted to do some I would just take it, not give some of my hard earned/stolen money to someone.
 
Well the reasons listed by everyone else are the same things I'd say. But I do want to just say that I love the DOX family and find them more than worthwhile as psychedelics. When DOC or DOM is what I want to take, then I'm glad to be able to do so. I feel like they get a bit of a bad rap because of the unfortunately tendency people have to try to sell them as LSD. But they are definitely high-quality psychedelics if used properly and without expecting a different drug. DOC is actually my favorite all-around psychedelic - it's the one I enjoy the most.

And soli, I wouldn't say they're very similar to the 2C-Xs at all. I'd say as a whole they're like some sort of hybrid between amphetamine and something LSD-ish but different. And of course each of them has its own character.

StingRei said:
Is DOx any weaker than real LSD when it comes to it's psychedelic potency?
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In my experience DOC, DOM, and DOB all have the potential to create fully psychedelic experiences, although of course it's not the same experience as LSD. But I'd say it's possible to reach the same sort of depth, but it's rarer to find that "magic" that LSD can have.
 
TheAzo said:
IMO it's the safety factor. A strip of acid will be fine - intense, but fine. A strip of DOx blotter (particularly DOI) would be a totally different story!
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I know several people who have exceded 20mg of DOI, that isn't to say that is a good idea at all because its completely not.... They couldn't see in front of them.
 
fryingsquirrel said:
I have plenty of DOI, if I wanted to do some I would just take it, not give some of my hard earned/stolen money to someone.
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I laughed =D

One thing to remember is that DOx is not one single chemical. The DOx family contains drugs that have some varying effects. FWIW, I had some DOC a few weeks ago (intentionally) and didn't think it was particularly interesting....I'd much rather take LSD, pretty much over any RC...
 
PepperSocks said:
1) Because it's not what you asked/payed for. If someone buys a tab of acid they are expecting it to be LSD and experience it's particular experience. If they wanted a DOx they would go looking for a DOx; not LSD. If people are selling DOx blotters they should sell it as such and not call it acid or LSD; call it a DOx.

2) Because not everyone reacts the same to these things. For some people DOx's are incredibly rough of an experience. The unexpectedly long duration can really mess with people as well. If I take a tab of acid at noon I can expect to get to sleep by midnight; not the case with a DOx

There's a million reasons why people care that it's a DOx and not LSD but #1 is the biggest.

Think methamphetamine or piperazines in ecstasy. Who cares if it's not MDMA? I sure as hell do.
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Here that brother! Sure DOx fucks you up but it is not an lsd experience. When taking a ten strip expecting to trip your balls off on acid and it turns out its DOx its fucking disappointing. And we should not have to buy molly to roll. What happened to the days when it was all mdma with either coke for an upper and heroin for a downer?
 
If you go into your local video store to buy a video, you pay for it, take it home, open it, and find a different video entirely - you would care, right? The cashier could easily say the same thing though - "It's still a video, it's still fun to watch!"

People intentionally mislabelling drugs (or any products for that matter) are scum. It's like if someone sells Mephedrone as MDMA, Mephedrone is euphoric too, Mephedrone is an entactogen too - but they're not the same, if I want Mephedrone I'll buy Mephedrone, not MDMA.

Another example, how about buying weed. If you go to your dealer, and he sells you some legal buds laced with JWH, you'd be pretty pissed. They still get you high, but it's not weed, and you went to buy weed.

Also, LSD and other psychedelics are just not about being "euphoric and physically pleasant", they are a lot deeper than this.
 
Are you sure it's DOx doing the rounds? Like all drugs LSD has an onset and this continues on towards the peak, you don't start tripping and five minutes later you peak, LSD takes around an hour to kick in and then this gradually builds up over the course of 3 hours or so to a peak.

Also, the reason I care if it's DOx I paid my hard-earned money for this stuff, like everything I buy I expect it to be what I bought, not some replacement chemical. If you buy an ecstacy pill containing MDMA you would certainly care if it was a piperazine.
 
You'd care if you ate 4 hits of what was supposed to be good acid, and then tripped for 36 hours through your own grad party, no sleep, no warning I'd be tripping well into the next day.
 
It is way easier to eat a bunch of acid than a bunch of DOx. Eat a 10 strip of a acid and you will probably have an awesome time. Eat a 10 strip of some DOx laid blotter and you may bug out. It would probably feel physically unpleasant to eat that much of a DOx.
 
If I paid for LSD then I'm not going to react favourably if I'm slipped a DOx.


Apart from anything else, I have shit to do, 48 hour trips are simply not on the cards for me.
 
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