White Pumas (Weird Reaction EVERYTIME) ?

[lindaalinnn]

Okay, I've done my fair amount of distinct ecstasy pills (Purple Dolphins, Molly's, White GMC's, Yellow Pokeballs, etc.)

All of these gave me a clean roll and a clean comedown. But on white pumas, my reaction was insanely different pushing me to the brink where I thought I was dying. And keep in mind that every time I do pop a pill, I only take ONE pill and I don't over-exceed this limit.

The first time I did white pumas, I had a clean roll and a clean comedown. I went to smoke some weed a few hours after thinking my roll was done and right away my roll came back. I thought, "Cool, this is what usually happens after I smoke weed after a good roll." WRONG. I started getting ringing ears and fuzzy vision. I had to run to the bathroom and splash my face and drink some water to calm myself down. And for the rest of the night I had these "brain zaps" if you guys know what I mean. Like it was so painful. If someone touched my shoulder it shocked me and I'd feel like something shoot up my brain or something. This went on for the rest of the night until I fell asleep. And the weed I smoked is weed I always smoke.

The second time I did white pumas, my roll was pretty clean for a good 3-4 hours. But during my comedown, this time it was much, much worse. I didn't get ringing ears this time but I had CRAZY MAD BRAIN ZAPS! Chest pressure, difficulty breathing, headache dizziness & fuzzy thoughts, I had muscle cramps, I started getting scared cus I noticed I was sipping on a lot of water throughout the night & not urinating, I puked, & I was shaking to the point where I thought I might get a seizure. I didn't sleep the whole night because every time I tried I'd get a brain zap, and I had to keep the light on because when I was engulfed in darkness this brought on extreme anxiety. When it hit around morning time it was very hard for me to function and move my hands in the right manner.

This was a few months ago and I'm totally fine. Never touching white pumas or ecstasy in general ever. My question is, I get these "ecstasy flashbacks" sometimes when I smoke weed. What I mean by that is it brings back the paranoia I felt when I was on the white pumas and I never had this before... I also have migraines now and frequent headaches. Care to explain about these nasty white pumas along with the comedown & after affects? & share your experiences w/ this nasty pill!

 

[JimSteele]

First off, it sounds like you rolled too often during your honeymoon period. Ideally, a break of at least three months is recommended, with one month being (in my opinion) an ill advised absolute minimum. It sounds like you were focused more on the number of pills taken, rather than how often you are rolling. Focusing on the correct frequency is more important.

Also, white pumas are known to be highly adulterated with meth. You are doing the right thing in taking time off (or ceasing MDMA use entirely, if thats what you feel that you need to do.)

You probably dont want to hear this, but you should lay off the weed too. Many have reported that weed actually exacerbates negative effects of recovering from a period of MDMA abuse (symptoms such as dizziness, visual disruptions, vertigo like feelings, etc).

If you do decide to roll again, invest in a test kit to ensure that what you are taking is MDMA and nothing else and correctly space out your rolls. MDMA is a drug that both requires and deserves to be kept "special;" it is not an every month or every festival or every concert type of drug. Also, it is a drug that requires an educated user to properly be used. Bluelight is an excellent resource for an E-ducation.

 

[blah blah]

White Pumas have been so up and down, especially since march this year. They've ranged anywhere from a solid dose of MDMA only last winter, no glitter, to the glittered batches with a good dose of MDMA and a tiny bit of Meth late winter, to a 50/50 MDMA/Meth mix early spring, to full on Meth only late spring, and the most recent white one tested right in my backyard as a suspected straight piperazine pill.

Does that make you want to invest in a test kit yet?

 

[pokepoke420]

Yeah the Pumas are notorious for Methamphetamine. Have you ever checked Pillreports.com? If not you should. Also, if you are into taking E buying a test kit is never a waste of money. It is something for yourself if this is something you choose to do. I had a good batch of Pumas before they went to shit. They WERE a solid dose of MDMA, and after the press became well known they pushed their garbage. Smart marketing, shitty souls.

 

[Flailing_Gypsy]

Hmmm... well, it definitely sounds like the white pumas you did were highly adulterated and I have also heard meth. Your symptoms also remind me of how I feel on piperazine sometimes. *shudders*

Definitely invest in a tester kit, it's worth it. Believe me, I too LOVE MDMA/ecstasy but everything is so filled with shit now, you never know what you're getting... and with PMMA going around in such massive quantities, especially in Canada, I really recommend investing in a kit. I just got back from Shambhala Music festival and I helped out with the drug testing booth and was that ever a fuckin wake up call... SO MUCH PMMA, so much bath salts, so many inconclusive results... there was a lot of positive MDMA results but I would say at least half, probably more than half though, of everything we tested over those 4 days, was either inconclusive, tested for nothing or it tested for PMMA, bath salts or something other than it was being sold as. Every year at Shambhala, around 39% of the shit we test there is inconclusive and tests for nothing. Unfortunately, the market is too fuckin sketchy not to have a tester kit. I wont even touch any of that shit now til my tester kit comes arrives.

If smoking weed is bringing these flash backs on and bringing out paranoia, it might be a good choice to abstain... I know that sucks but JimSteele is right...

Take good care of yourself!