Which pills are safe to insufflate/inject?

[CaucasianHomeboy]

I was just wondering about which pills are safer than others (due to fillers and binders and other shit) for insufflation and injection? Anyone want to help out and make a list? I haven't seen a thread around like this, and I think it could help quite a few people. Thanks in advance to anyone who cal help.
Snortin = Adderall and Ritalin are safe I know, so that's to start it off.
Injecting = ??
Oxycontin might be for snorting, yes?
Anyways, let me know what you all know.
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--Abraham Lincoln -- December, 1840

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-Fuck PLUR, get high-

 

[Roches]

heh... in keeping with my timeless message board tradition of weird literary exercises in the form of posts...
yes, it's long boring and nerdy
but i have a lot of time and i can do stuff like that.
this one is a warning... - token jungle reference
Circle VII: The Drug-fiends
Across the river shall we wade,
He said, and o'er to those quarters,
Which sleep not, nor see the light of day;
For this is the drug-fiend's dwelling-place,
His opium-den, his crack-house subterrene,
Strew’n with needles and bits of plastic straw.
Here Apollyon makes deals with them,
And they, cunning, do seek to prosper thus;
Listen, for I tell you of their fate:
Each day they go to him, and he
Without delay a baggie gives to them,
Full of sparkling crystals of purest white.
And lo! they think, ‘tis glass most pure!
Or numbing K, or uncut coke, and so
With joy they cut their lines.
And they take up their straw, and they
Into their nostrils draw their rails,
And ever, year on year, the same.
There is no coke in Hell, my friend,
Nor glass nor K, nor Adderal.
The fiend knows but one venom.
And this-woe! I quake, to say the name,
Is Paxil; for it, insufflated thus,
Does burn as molten sulphur.
Hellfire without can they roughly bear;
but to fire within, their nepenthe denied,
Their habit brings no succour.
The Devil goes by myriad names,
But to the fiend who dwelleth here,
His one name is Paroxetine.

 

[CaucasianHomeboy]

That was entertaining at least.

 

[PhreeX]

Anything that ends with 'Contin' is NOT to be injected - but you can snort anything you can crush.. except Darvon, which burns with the fire of 7 suns!
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[CaucasianHomeboy]

PhreeX--
I've never really heard talk of this, but I got to thinking the other night when i was melting into my couch in the blanket of euphoria and relaxation that is opiates.
The "cold water extraction". Would it be possible to simply evap the water in a dish or whatnot after you do this and end up with your hydrocodone in powder form without all that apap? If so, this would be injectable, yes? If you've any theories/reasons to why this may or may not work, do tell. At least getting the hydrocodone powder would be nice for capping/snorting.
Peace
--CH

 

[Roches]

no, that was insane. and i wasn't even *on* anything.
phreex: darvon too? maybe they added something to all the drugs that weren't fun, just so you could snort the ones that were.
cold water extraction: without thinking too hard i can't see a reason why you couldn't evaporate the water to get mostly pure HC. it's still gonna be HC with binders and APAP though. probably snortable, but definitely *not* injectable.
besides, anything based on codeine rather than morphine isn't suited for injection. morphine and its derivatives aren't effective orally because they get to the liver before the brain, and a large part is metabolized before it ever does anything. so they have to be injected. codeine doesn't do anything at all *until* it gets to the liver and gets changed into morphine, then goes to the brain. very effective for oral dosing, not good at all if injected. the same should be true of hydrocodone.
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draw your own conclusions.

 

[PhreeX]

Yes, you CAN do a cold-water extract on Vicodin, Lortab, etc... it's the only way I will do it when I have a lot of them - the key to why this works is that APAP is NOT soluble in COLD water, while the narcotic componet is..
As for Darvon - I don't mean Darvocet, but rather the little caps of raw propoxyphene - I thought hey, I might as well give it a shot.. it was a pain FAR WORSE then T-7 or anything else I have had ... but you can inject it and it is like a totally differn't drug!
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..

 

[shady]

Roches, let's say there is absolutely no binders in the mix (not cold-water extraction), just DRY crystals of APAP and hydrocodone in a pile. How would you separate them? Is there a solvent that will just dissolve hydrocodone and not APAP or vice versa? Does dissolvment of substances depends only on polarity or a polar substance can be insoluble in polar solvent if that solvent has certain characteristics?

 

[PhreeX]

^^^^^^
APAP is *NOT* soluble in ICE COLD WATER. so throw all yer shit in a jar of ICE WATER, put it in the fridge, and the remaining powder is APAP sans dope (there is a little more involved but thats the idea)
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..

 

[Roches]

yeah, cold water will remove all but a very small part of the APAP (i like that name: N-acetyl-para-aminophenol.), especially if you use an absolutely minimal quantity.
the merck index is way too vague and insufficient on both of these compounds to suggest solvents for differential-solubility or acid-base extraction. possibly ether or chloroform for DS, or pentane or toluene for AB... but only if HC base is soluble in those.
choosing a solvent isn't just a "like dissolves like" thing. there are tons of factors in choosing solvents besides just solubility; there's boiling point, volatility, effects on the reaction, miscability in a solvent pair...
but just looking at solubility, it depends on exactly what kind of solvent you use. it's totally possible for something to be soluble in ether (a polar aprotic solvent)but not water (a polar protic solvent); that substance may or may not be soluble in nonpolar solvents like toluene or hexane. or it may dissolve in chloroform, but not hexane. if it's very polar, it may dissolve in water, but not ethanol. it gets complicated.=)
oh yeah: you don't have dry (read: anhydrous) HC. it's hydrocodone bitartrate hemipentahydrate. =)