Le Junk
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alasdairm said:
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which of these two different highs best describe your cocaine buzz?
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trippinspirals
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southeast here
the initial lines of the night would be A - very euphoric, happy, etc
subsequent lines, (i.e. 2 hours of bumping/continuous use) always leaves me with essentially no euphoria and a strung out feeling
luckily i dont like coke enough to where this makes it easy for me to do a few lines and call it a night - vs burning the candle at both ends
the initial lines of the night would be A - very euphoric, happy, etc
subsequent lines, (i.e. 2 hours of bumping/continuous use) always leaves me with essentially no euphoria and a strung out feeling
luckily i dont like coke enough to where this makes it easy for me to do a few lines and call it a night - vs burning the candle at both ends
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in NY I think I had the A.
since I've been in NC the quality has gone down...however, the major things I've noticed are the ampy/raciness and the kind of cracked out feeling I get. everything else is pretty normal.
since I've been in NC the quality has gone down...however, the major things I've noticed are the ampy/raciness and the kind of cracked out feeling I get. everything else is pretty normal.
Originally posted by Le Junk
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i'm not sure i understand - two more replies to the thread, two more (well, perhaps one and a half) As.
alasdair
Le Junk
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alasdairm said:Originally posted by Le Junk
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i'm not sure i understand - two more replies to the thread, two more (well, perhaps one and a half) As.
alasdair
Are you kidding! I see two more B's.
The first person mentions after and hour or two (specifically stated as one of the guidelines in my original post as having to be called a "B"), that they feel no euphoria and feel strung out. That's a "B".
The second person mentions feeling ampyness, edgyness and cracked out feeling. Are you blind? Another "B".
Your one sided my friend. Wake up and really read what these people are actually saying. Your trying to dispute the truth and it's becoming quite transparant.
I am moving way beyond this kind of thinking of yours and am on the edge of solving the problem. I'm sure of which you'll have absolutely nothing to do with. Though regardless of your negativism and one-sidedness, I will still post a thread on the actual cleanup process once I can produce the same outcome time and time again. I'm sure many will actually appreciate my efforts, time and money spent on this in the long run.
("Amphetamines can produce a feeling that can be easily be passed off as a cocaine high to the unexperienced user. But, after an hour or two of continued use, the negative sypmtoms of the amphetamines will manifest themselves into such negative feeings as edgyness, labored breathing, paranoia and uncomfortableness. For this reason, amphetamines mixed with nothing more than procaine are often sold as cocaine to the unsuspecting consumer", David Lee.)
Why don't you read my original post again. And I am going to add up the numbers myself right now to see exactly what I come up with.
Good day.
Le Junk
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alasdairm,
I just ran the numbers myself. Dude, your freakin' blind!
Here are the numbers at present:
Type A: 25
Type B: 54
I would say that pretty much sums it up there, alasdairm!
I just ran the numbers myself. Dude, your freakin' blind!
Here are the numbers at present:
Type A: 25
Type B: 54
I would say that pretty much sums it up there, alasdairm!
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no le junk, you are BIAS.
do not take this in the wrong way, but you're a little too pushy with your ideas and "theory" of cocaine...you do not believe that anyone in the USA gets good coke....you refuse to believe that EVEN GREAT COCAINE CAN/WILL PRODUCE NEGATIVE EFFECTS(like u listed under B)!!!
while you're right that theres tons of shitty stuff, ALOT and i mean ALOT people are still finding good quality cocaine....
go re-read this thread AGAIN, and you will see that a fairly decent proportion of people are getting "A" coke....if you happen to have any scientist in you, you'd also notice that alot of the people who picked A have only done coke a couple times; no more than a handful; or did it while visiting another area(....hence, placebo effect)....while most of the people who say type "B" coke are experienced users or were abusers at one point....
notice that trend, buddy?
it suggests that even pure cocaine will produce type "B" effects, its just sometimes people have a great time doing coke, other times they don't!(IMO its related to benign Overdoses)
just an example for ya....i've done both types of cocaine, and found very little difference except for the increased edgyness and longer/shittier comedown(of your "type B")! but you know what?? on the best cocaine i've ever touched, i was completely non-sexual, edgy, etc....alot of the effects you associate with "type B".
you know why IMO, because most people do TOO much coke....even 100% pure cocaine will produce nearly all the effects listed as Type B under heavy and repeated use...
Now Le Junk,
i agree that alot of coke these days is/may be cut with amphs, but at the same time, you cannot assume that the vast majority of cocaine is cut like this....its not practical. you're a smart man, do you HONESTLY think this is a "common" cut?!?!?!?
why would someone use a substance like that, when there are tons of other inactive substances that are FAR cheaper, easier to obtain, and more importantly inactive.
that would hurt your business TWO fold, not only would you have increased costs just to get your coke out on the streets, but then you're going to turn off half your customers.
look at heroin for isntance....its very rarely cut with anything active, because in the end, they just lose business.
you must think that 90% of the coke in the USA is going through the SAME person/group....
do not take this in the wrong way, but you're a little too pushy with your ideas and "theory" of cocaine...you do not believe that anyone in the USA gets good coke....you refuse to believe that EVEN GREAT COCAINE CAN/WILL PRODUCE NEGATIVE EFFECTS(like u listed under B)!!!
while you're right that theres tons of shitty stuff, ALOT and i mean ALOT people are still finding good quality cocaine....
go re-read this thread AGAIN, and you will see that a fairly decent proportion of people are getting "A" coke....if you happen to have any scientist in you, you'd also notice that alot of the people who picked A have only done coke a couple times; no more than a handful; or did it while visiting another area(....hence, placebo effect)....while most of the people who say type "B" coke are experienced users or were abusers at one point....
notice that trend, buddy?
it suggests that even pure cocaine will produce type "B" effects, its just sometimes people have a great time doing coke, other times they don't!(IMO its related to benign Overdoses)
just an example for ya....i've done both types of cocaine, and found very little difference except for the increased edgyness and longer/shittier comedown(of your "type B")! but you know what?? on the best cocaine i've ever touched, i was completely non-sexual, edgy, etc....alot of the effects you associate with "type B".
you know why IMO, because most people do TOO much coke....even 100% pure cocaine will produce nearly all the effects listed as Type B under heavy and repeated use...
Now Le Junk,
i agree that alot of coke these days is/may be cut with amphs, but at the same time, you cannot assume that the vast majority of cocaine is cut like this....its not practical. you're a smart man, do you HONESTLY think this is a "common" cut?!?!?!?
why would someone use a substance like that, when there are tons of other inactive substances that are FAR cheaper, easier to obtain, and more importantly inactive.
that would hurt your business TWO fold, not only would you have increased costs just to get your coke out on the streets, but then you're going to turn off half your customers.
look at heroin for isntance....its very rarely cut with anything active, because in the end, they just lose business.
you must think that 90% of the coke in the USA is going through the SAME person/group....
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^to summarize that post in laymans terms:
The negative side effects listed under type B cocaine in this thread are side effects of GOOD cocaine as well....if you do too much(which btw is easier with better quality cocaine), you will most definately feel alot of these effects...that does NOT mean that it was cut with amphs.
The negative side effects listed under type B cocaine in this thread are side effects of GOOD cocaine as well....if you do too much(which btw is easier with better quality cocaine), you will most definately feel alot of these effects...that does NOT mean that it was cut with amphs.
Le Junk
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Okay, when I do "great" cocaine, I will end up doing less. That's always been the case. There is no real intense feinding or craving to "have" to do more, thus, I end up doing less. Keep in mind this is coming from 20 years + of experience.
For example, I just went to Santo Domingo for my honeymoon. I got 3 grams of which I would normally go thru with 2-3 friends in one evening. Well, this shit was so smooth, non-edgy and so great, that I would do 2 lines along with my wife who also did 2 lines and we'd feel great! Better than anything back home and exactly the same feeling as I use to experience in the 80's. In fact, you would come down so smoothly that you'd actually forget you were even sober.
Now, I bought those 3 grams to last us the first night and maybe into the next morning. Well, they ended up lasting for 3 fucking days and I ended up actually flushing a half gram before our return flight home.
Now, some of you have asked why would the cartels cut with something active like amphetamines vs. something inactive like mannitol.
First off, when the Mexican cartels get the "great" shit from South America, they cut it to hell right away with mannitol (inactive cut). Now, to restore the lost potency from the overly cut cocaine, they now add a cheap, active, and very addictive cut......amphetamine.
The user now craves more and more and continues to go back even though they feel like shit. The idea is outstanding from the cartels standpoint. Amphetamines are extremely cheap for the Mexicans to produce and it makes the users crave to do more. Think about it. It's engenious.
That is why they use amphetamines as their cut.
I know I have a tendency to sometimes talk like a know it all, and for that I apologize. It's just my freakin' nature. I don't really know it all, it sometimes just comes across as though my way is the right way and no one elses is. Sorry.
Keep in mind though that when I was doing this precious cocaine in the 80's, that we could party for 3 days striaght and never get amped out, edgy, or uncomfortable. You felt sexed up after every new line and the only reason we ever ended up stopping was from complete exhaustion and hunger.
You really would have to of done this stuff to understand. Without that, it's very difficult to explain.
I DO believe there is still alot of type "A" cocaine out there. The point I was trying to make is that that was all there ever use to be avaliable. There was no type "B" until recently. It's when the Mexicans got involved in the trade that this happened.
I remember the point at which things began to start making a turn for the worse. Every once in awhile back in the early 90's, we would get a bag of blow and all of us would get really edged out. Our hearts would be racing and you didn't feel sexed up at all. Of course then, we didn't really know what was going on. We just thought it was us or something.
It first started with about 1 in every 10 bags or so, then 1 in every 5, until it eventually became the norm. It was no longer enjoyable and your heart would be racing in like an hour or so. It became a chore to do.
That is why I have devoted alot of my time to trying to one, find out what it was, and two, find out how to remove it.
It's really for the good of anyone who enjoys cocaine. I'm sorry I sometimes come off as a know-it-all. I'm certainly not. I just want answers, have the time and money to research it and will post any findings I make to the forum.
That's all.
For example, I just went to Santo Domingo for my honeymoon. I got 3 grams of which I would normally go thru with 2-3 friends in one evening. Well, this shit was so smooth, non-edgy and so great, that I would do 2 lines along with my wife who also did 2 lines and we'd feel great! Better than anything back home and exactly the same feeling as I use to experience in the 80's. In fact, you would come down so smoothly that you'd actually forget you were even sober.
Now, I bought those 3 grams to last us the first night and maybe into the next morning. Well, they ended up lasting for 3 fucking days and I ended up actually flushing a half gram before our return flight home.
Now, some of you have asked why would the cartels cut with something active like amphetamines vs. something inactive like mannitol.
First off, when the Mexican cartels get the "great" shit from South America, they cut it to hell right away with mannitol (inactive cut). Now, to restore the lost potency from the overly cut cocaine, they now add a cheap, active, and very addictive cut......amphetamine.
The user now craves more and more and continues to go back even though they feel like shit. The idea is outstanding from the cartels standpoint. Amphetamines are extremely cheap for the Mexicans to produce and it makes the users crave to do more. Think about it. It's engenious.
That is why they use amphetamines as their cut.
I know I have a tendency to sometimes talk like a know it all, and for that I apologize. It's just my freakin' nature. I don't really know it all, it sometimes just comes across as though my way is the right way and no one elses is. Sorry.
Keep in mind though that when I was doing this precious cocaine in the 80's, that we could party for 3 days striaght and never get amped out, edgy, or uncomfortable. You felt sexed up after every new line and the only reason we ever ended up stopping was from complete exhaustion and hunger.
You really would have to of done this stuff to understand. Without that, it's very difficult to explain.
I DO believe there is still alot of type "A" cocaine out there. The point I was trying to make is that that was all there ever use to be avaliable. There was no type "B" until recently. It's when the Mexicans got involved in the trade that this happened.
I remember the point at which things began to start making a turn for the worse. Every once in awhile back in the early 90's, we would get a bag of blow and all of us would get really edged out. Our hearts would be racing and you didn't feel sexed up at all. Of course then, we didn't really know what was going on. We just thought it was us or something.
It first started with about 1 in every 10 bags or so, then 1 in every 5, until it eventually became the norm. It was no longer enjoyable and your heart would be racing in like an hour or so. It became a chore to do.
That is why I have devoted alot of my time to trying to one, find out what it was, and two, find out how to remove it.
It's really for the good of anyone who enjoys cocaine. I'm sorry I sometimes come off as a know-it-all. I'm certainly not. I just want answers, have the time and money to research it and will post any findings I make to the forum.
That's all.
EsourceR
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just say no to "B" !!
...it's a matter of supply and ...demand "A" !!!
...it's a matter of supply and ...demand "A" !!!
Originally posted by Le Junk
alasdairm,
I just ran the numbers myself. Dude, your freakin' blind!
when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail alasdairm,
I just ran the numbers myself. Dude, your freakin' blind!
alasdair
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le junk-
cool i respect your opinion, im just reminding you that it IS possible for people to get the effects of "B" coke even if they had great "A" quality cocaine...if you do too much you will get B like effects....you're right about not feining as bad when you have good coke, but then again, thats just you....other people are into the binge part associated with coke.
cool i respect your opinion, im just reminding you that it IS possible for people to get the effects of "B" coke even if they had great "A" quality cocaine...if you do too much you will get B like effects....you're right about not feining as bad when you have good coke, but then again, thats just you....other people are into the binge part associated with coke.
meesa
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A... except my heart does go kinda out of control.... SO does this mean its actually "B?"
skiforlife
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We get the "B" type shit in Boulder, CO and I've gone through at least 10 different people for coke there. I got "A" type shit **ONE** time. 
meesa
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^^ I live in Aurora..maybe you need to get outta boulder to find some better stuff.
Le Junk
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meesa said:
Unfortunately, yes. If it were totally type "A", you really would never even take note of your heart.
With coke that has been cut, but not heavily with amphetamines or ephedrine, you'll experience a noticeable increase in heartbeat.
The "A" type of pleasantries will eventually give way to the "B" type of negatives if it's been cut with either.
That is why I specifically stated to answer type "A" or "B" after at least 2 hours of straight use. After about 2 hours is the maximum time before the negatives will show up, if there are any.
So yes, unfortunately, you'll probably have to answer "B".
Now, at least you know from the little you did what good cocaine is really all about, before the "B" actually did kick in.
Imagine those feelings of type "A" continuing without any of the type "B" feelings ever kicking in. That's totally type "A" cocaine.
But, like I said to you before, if you have access to Valiums, you can extend or completely deminish those "B" type of feelings once you get the correct dosage of Valium down.
Good luck.
I have only once found "A Type stuff" here in the u.s. By the way I live in the Midwest, to be even more descriptive, its like the central state of the u.s. Now I have family in Mexico and last time I visited them like two years ago I got a hold of some stuff and I couldn't even imagine how good this shit was. I was just saying to myself "this is how real coke is like".
Now before trying it in Mexico, you could call me a cocaine master. I have gotten all types of coke here and none have really ever gave me that satisfying pleasure I felt like the first time I did it. But when I snorted that one line in Mexico, I felt all the effects of "A type stuff" and I had no desire what so ever of doing this stuff right away, I did it the next day though.
Like right now after not doing coke for like a month and a half I got some yesterday and it was actually somewhat "ok" but here in the states most of us are all used to it(I have found way shittier shit that is nothing, it makes you think snorting sugar is better
).
Now before trying it in Mexico, you could call me a cocaine master. I have gotten all types of coke here and none have really ever gave me that satisfying pleasure I felt like the first time I did it. But when I snorted that one line in Mexico, I felt all the effects of "A type stuff" and I had no desire what so ever of doing this stuff right away, I did it the next day though.
Like right now after not doing coke for like a month and a half I got some yesterday and it was actually somewhat "ok" but here in the states most of us are all used to it(I have found way shittier shit that is nothing, it makes you think snorting sugar is better
).
bandit_4203
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Where I'm from (South Carolina), the coke has definitely been improving. There's no question it's a type B buzz after two hours, but some of the A effects still exist (such as being talkative and full of energy).
Still, as the night wears on I definitely notice more and more feinding for the next line and a progressively worsening emotional connection with those I'm around. It's not that we get unfriendly or snappy, it's just that tiny feeling in the back of your head switches from the first line's "wow, I'm glad to be here with you guys" feeling to something more in the neighborhood of distraction.
I want to do everything and nothing at once and while a conversation will interest me for a few moments, I basically want to move on and get mildly annoyed that I still have to focus on talking.
Still, as the night wears on I definitely notice more and more feinding for the next line and a progressively worsening emotional connection with those I'm around. It's not that we get unfriendly or snappy, it's just that tiny feeling in the back of your head switches from the first line's "wow, I'm glad to be here with you guys" feeling to something more in the neighborhood of distraction.
I want to do everything and nothing at once and while a conversation will interest me for a few moments, I basically want to move on and get mildly annoyed that I still have to focus on talking.