Which of these has a better rec. value?

[cbyrd9]

Ultram,Temgesic,Talwin, or hydrocodone?
Let me more specific on my question. Which of these has more rec. value to someone with low opiate tolerance? (for example 1 oxy 20 i'm good, 2 20's and i'll puke my guts up)

 

[negrogesic]

Im sure more people will say hydrocodone. Talwin is pretty strong, but its a agonist/antagonist so it can have strange side-effects, as with temgesic.
People will disagree with this, but I prefer ultram, as you can take high doses because it lacks acetometaphen. You maybe experience some twitching above 400-500mg, but it can be a very powerfull high.
Otherwise, hydrocodone is pretty decent. If you have alot you can extract the good stuff.

 

[karma_is]

Ultram is goood. I dunno why a lot of people say its shit. But Hydrocodone rate #1 then ultram..

 

[stardreamer]

Shit, hard to pick
Ultram is awesome because for me it lasts forever. I can take it at noon and be good til' 8 o clock. The buzz is strong, but not amazing. Still, a good high all around. Not having acetimenophen is a giant plus. 350mg is my favorite dose
Hydro is better for the rush. I mean, you can't really say hydrocodone gives a true "rush" - but compared to Ultram it does. With a good dose of hydrocodone I can feel as good as a moderate dose of oxycodone. 30-40mg is my perfect dose.

 

[gottihbk]

id say hydrocodone hands down is the best there.

 

[day_for_night]

hydro to the izo

 

[lexabug]

ultram by far. hydro sucks some serious ass, and i had an allergic reaction to talwin.

 

[wanderlust]

i cant believe there are so many fans of ultram in this thread. i would suggest that you look up some recent ultram/tramadol threads and see what else has been said about it, especially about the side effects and i believe there is apap in it actually.
but anyway, hydro all the way and give the ultram away

 

[ketamatic]

I liked Temgesic a lot. You are probably referring to the SL tabs, which you could snort--but if you can get the injectable it is worth a shot(heh)--try 0.3mg IV or 0.6mg IM.

 

[alert]

Ultram is an OK substance, and I have a LOT of experiance with it, and the shit will get you high.
As to what someone said about Ultram containing APAP, is does NOT. They did come out with a new drug, Ultracet, which contains tramadol and APAP, I think that is what you were refering to.
Now, Ultram is some OK shit, but I'm trying to give you good advice, so here it is. Hydrocodone is BY FAR a better choice then tramadol in my opinion, and I'm sure anyone with actual opiate experiance will tell you.
Conclusion, get the Hydrocodone, you don't even have to worry about the APAP levels you are consuming if 20mg oxy has you lit and 40 has you puking. I say a dose of 6 5mg hydrocodone pills would have you REAL lit, and that is only 3g of APAP, which is not a very large dose at all, completley safe.

 

[antEater]

Originally posted by alert:
and that is only 3g of APAP, which is not a very large dose at all, completley safe.
Not completely safe, but relatively safe. Safer than 6g of APAP, I'll tell you that.

 

[cbyrd9]

well the hydro I have has no asprin or apap in the tabs so thats not an issue. nobody say "thay don't make'em that way " because the do (IP brand 2mg per tab)

 

[jonnypotseed]

2mg of hydrocodone per pill!!!they must be baby pain pills...take bout 30 of them for a decent buzz...
hydrocodone aint fucking shit.
tramadol is far better than hydrocodone in my opinion.

 

[cbyrd9]

baby pain pills that what they are , LOL you got it right

 

[fairnymph]

Hydrocodone and ultram (tramadol) both have pretty decent recreational value, if opiates are you thing.