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Which of these drugs is the Trip i'm looking for?

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Trying2Iso

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I want to try my first psychedelic, I feel very comfortable trying different drugs and Ill be with friends so I want to have a strong trip.
I'm looking for a trip with strong visuals, but MORE importantly something that messes up my thoughts and thinking, like a mind trip. I get trippy, disorganized thoughts on weed and I want a drug that will increase that effect. Also, I want a trip that interacts somewhat with my surrounding environment or where I'm at
I have access to Mushrooms, acid, salvia, and MAYBE dmt and molly
 
Try them all, one at the time in the order you mention them ;)

Just for the record. MDMA is an empathogen/entactogen/stimulant, and salvia is a dissociative. They're not psychedelics (not that they can't make you hallucinate)
 
How about this, I'll describe the kind of Environment that the world around you transfers into when you take each of the Psychedelics you just mentioned...
Mushrooms/Psilocybin - The will bring about a very strong feeling of Oneness with Nature, realizing that we are all as much a part of this Planet as every other Plant or Animal. I tend to think a lot about God, and Religion and how misled people are thinking they need something to believe in - when in reality, the Earth provides for all of us and takes care of all of us - you just have to learn how to re-pay her with Love to have a good life and Nature will always look out for you. There are some weird forces in this world that are unseen that most would say are lies or don't exist, but it's just because they've never had the pleasure of experiencing these beautiful things, so they refuse to allow themselves the thought that such magic could actually exist. Psychedelics are the closest thing to "Magic" on this planet. Respect them ALWAYS my friend.
LSD - I think that every human being should eat LSD at least one time in their life. It's a drug that helps teach you about Yourself, what YOU want out of life, and it can help you realize if you're someone who has low self esteem....it can help you find your Inner Ego, and I don't mean it'll teach you how to be an Arrogant Dick..........it shows you the talents that you possess and that you should be proud to have and use to your full advantage by allowing to see yourself and your Ego from outside of your body. I notice a lot of people on high dose LSD talk about having the experience of feeling like they're hovering over themselves from outside of their body, just observing their own behavior and take on life. It's a VERY liberating experience, that's why people "occasionally" just decide to get naked and run around - you just tend to realize a little bit more than normally JUST how free we are as Humans to do whatever the FUCK we want with our existence, for good or bad. LSD is beautiful, and while I enjoy Mushrooms - they can take you to a WAY deeper mental spot, WAY quicker than LSD. To get to the same trippiness as 2.5-3.5 grams of average 'Shrooms, you're looking at eating around 4-7 hits of common Street Acid, if your getting real LSD at all. ALWAYS KNOW YOUR SOURCE FOR LSD, there are A LOT of imposters these days. Fake LSD is usually NOT FUN.............and ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS, keep some god damn BENZODIAZEPINES on hand, Xanex, Valium, Klonopin, Etizolam, Pyrazolam.......something of this sort. They can literally SAVE A LIFE when a trip gets too deep, they're like an Escape Hatch out of the Trip. Keep them around, they WILL save you one day when you get too out there. It happens to the best of us, so don't EVER be embarrassed of something that you think about while tripping. It's just a part of who you are, deny it or deal with it, it's still a part of you. Psychedelics are like a Mental Organizer, helping you put life in proper order by importance. It's quite amazing. I give LSD 4 out of a possible 5 Psychedelic Stars. Mushrooms get more like a 3-3.5 out of 5. It kind of hard to get up and do shit on Shrooms, they tend to be very lazy and just Melt into Your Couch like, whereas LSD is usually more active, it has a slightly speedier edge and is a little less intense on your mind and body. High dose mushrooms have literally made me feel like I fucking poisoned myself before. Always remember, EVERY TRIP IS DIFFERENT, EVERYTIME, even if it's the SAME DOSE of the SAME DRUGS. Every trip is BRAND NEW, so leave your old ways of thought at home.
Salvia - I've actually never tried it personally, but have read and heard plenty about it. This one is more of an "Acquired" taste you could say. Some people freak the fuck out on it, others feel quite heavenly. It's a Dissociative, my favorite class of Drugs, in the same family as Dextromethorphan (DXM AKA, ROBITUSSIN), Ketamine, PCE, PCP, Methoxetamine, there's a lot of them nowadays. They offer their own unique state of Psychedelic Bliss - usually a very Stoned and Drunk at the same time kind of feeling with a little bit of LSD thrown in. They are some of the most Intense drugs, so know what you're getting into. All dissociatives can take you to their own version of a "Hole", basically a place where your brain ceases to be capable of understanding the most simple of signals being sent to it. You could look at a chair, and instead of seeing a chair, you'll think "What is this Wooden Object in front of me with 4 feet, a Flat area, and Backing on it - I have no clue what the fuck this thing is for." That's a pretty good example of how Abstract your thought process can get. It's kind of beautiful really, but can be TERRIFYING if you aren't ready for it and don't go with the flow of the trip, whether you like it or not. That's actually a good point about tripping on any substance - IF YOU DON'T LET GO OF YOURSELF ENTIRELY, IT MAY RESULT IN A FRIGHTENING TRIP, A BAD TRIP, Or just not what you were looking for at all. YOU control the destiny of the Trip, the drug is just a Catalyst put there to amplify your own thoughts that are already present. LET GO my young trippers, it's only then that you can Experience the true beauty inside of us all!!
DMT - Probably the MOST intense Psychedelic on the Planet. You WILL leave your body entirely. You WILL forget what kind of life form you are. You MAY talk to Aliens or see other incredible Life Forms in the room with you. FOR REAL. It can be TERRIFYING if you aren't ready. I'm an EXPERIENCED Psychedelic user and the first time I smoked some 5-MeO-DMT, it felt like taking off in a Rocketship to Outerspace - it made me so anxious because I was holding back that I almost gave myself an Anxiety Attack. I started reaching for my bottle of Diazepam QUICK - but before the Valium had even kicked in, I had already adjusted to my new state and was perfectly fine. DMT is BEAUTIFUL, it's like taking a full blown 12 hour HIGH dose of LSD and condensing it into 15-30 BEAUTIFUL minutes. If I was the person who got to give DMT it's first nickname, I would've called it Angel Dust - because you truly feel like a piece of Heaven just came into your living room on it.
MDMA/MDA - I've taken this plenty of times, but I'm not really a huge fan of rolling. Because of this, I'll let someone else describe it to you so you can have a good time and make the decision on your own. MDMA isn't really scary, unless you take too much, and then it can be a bit much - but overall, it's kinda like a Psychedelic Opiate high, you feel super happy, want to be everyone's friend, your super sexually charged and outgoing - it makes it pretty easy to get laid if you're around a lot of single women who are looking as well. It's an odd substance, very unique. Some love it, some don't. Decide for yourself. It's still a worthwhile tool to check out and see where it fits into your life.
Enjoy and stay safe my friend. Feel free to ask anything, anytime. I want to be here to help me fellow, less experienced users keep themselves safe. Have fun - Mr. Meowfish
 
In the name of harm reduction....
I try to avoid even mentioning psychedelics to people that get a bit fruity from weed.
No offense mate but your best not letting your friends deal with that.
 
Okay then ill probably go with the mushrooms
ill post on here in a week or 2 with my experience in the Trip report section
 
In the name of harm reduction....
I try to avoid even mentioning psychedelics to people that get a bit fruity from weed.
No offense mate but your best not letting your friends deal with that.
I get less anxiety from LSD than weed, and know many people that can't handle weed well but handle psychedelics fine.
 
I would say go with mushrooms. My first experience was with shrooms as well. They are (mostly) forgiving except for a few types of people...
 
Yeah I agree if your looking for the deep introspective aspect an eigth of shrooms will definately take you there although maybe start at 2.5 grams. And for the guy who made the comment about weed, I have never had ANY psychedelic experience induce such a state of paranoia and fear than cannabis has with the exception of my 5 gram shroom trip inspired by one of mckenna's sermons. Many agree, read through this thread named weed anxiety vs lsd anxiety http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/373188-Lsd-anxiety-vs-cannabis-anxiety .With psychedelics you see what's wrong in your life and therapeuticaly work through em where as cannabis slaps you in the face with all your fears, regrets, and wrongdoings at once in a way that makes it sort of impossible to make rational decisions to solve them. All you think is "I don't wanna be high anymore, when will this end" and when you come down you forget and make no actions to improve what was causing the anxiety in the first place. Marijuana has produced headspaces that top all of my intense trips, except that 5 gram cyanescan(sp?) Shroom trip which I will never forget.
 
Yeah I agree if your looking for the deep introspective aspect an eigth of shrooms will definately take you there although maybe start at 2.5 grams. And for the guy who made the comment about weed, I have never had ANY psychedelic experience induce such a state of paranoia and fear than cannabis has with the exception of my 5 gram shroom trip inspired by one of mckenna's sermons. With psychedelics you see what's wrong in your life and therapeuticaly work through em where as cannabis slaps you in the face with all your fears, regrets, and wrongdoings at once in a way that makes it sort of impossible to make rational decisions to solve them. All you think is "I don't wanna be high anymore, when will this end" and when you come down you forget and make no actions to improve what was causing the anxiety in the first place. Marijuana has produced headspaces that top all of my intense trips, except that 5 gram cyanescan(sp?) Shroom trip which I will never forget.

wtf kind of weed are you smoking?

I jest to a degree, as I know everyone is affected differently.. but to say psychedelics won't slap you in the face and overwhelm you like that is just stupid and unsafe. The whole "I don't wanna be high anymore, when will this end" has never once crept up on me from smoking weed, but has several times on psychedelics. Not to mention that this is made worse by the fact that your headspace is so entirely screwed up that you can't think properly and often times weird body vibes can make you feel like you're dying or all other sorts of things..

Bottom line here is that what you're saying about marijuana I'm saying about other psychedelics and vice versa. there is no definitive truth.

Seriously though, weed must really, like really really fuck you up if you honestly feel like the headspaces its produced for you top all of your "intense trips"
 
@OP

No "what should I take?" type threads, we don't recommend drugs to each other here out of the blue like that.

If you cannot generally judge the main differences between the substances you mention you probably should do a lot more research on them before trying any of them. We don't support people cutting corners asking others to cover the basics like that, do your own homework please. :)

From HR perspective I'll give only Trying2Iso a chance to respond - but if you feel like you are stuck completely without info on how to proceed you can start with our FAQ (link below in my signature) which also shows you how to approach some big questions and how to use our forum to answer them. There is tons of info to help you with that and learning about the substances that way is much much more healthy than asking like this.
 
I've also felt shear terror smoking weed, worse than any mushroom trip. Weed has no mercy if you have fear in your heart somewhere (which most of us do). Mushrooms is more of a teacher. I'd stick to about 2 grams for the first trip. Good luck!
 
I stand by my statement. I have been smoking weed for 9 years and tripping for about 6. every once in a while weed will really freak me the fuck out. I have GAD so that may contribute to that but weed has definately fucked with my head more than most of my psych experiences and I never said that psychedelics can't do the same... not once but from my experience weed is WAY more prone to cause anxiety for me, period. These fucked up weed trips did happen more often when I was a mess and in fucked up situations and since I've been taking psychs I'm in a much better place in my life.

Every time I have had rough trips if i just let go and accept whats happening i enter a therapeutic state in which I effectively try and find out what im doing with my life and what I must do to solve em. Once again everyones milage may vary but I'll be waiting for you to backup the claim where I said psychedelics can't be powerfully intense. When im in a weed induced panic attack there is no rationalizing, I know that no one has died from weed but even knowing that I will still fear for my life on a high dose edible. And the answer as to what kinda weed im smoking, only the finest. Here in cali, you can find the strongest strains available so that's what im smoking :) go eat a highest dose edible from a dispensary and then tell me you didn't fear for your life just as much if not more than a psychedelic experience... Just know that "just let go and work through your problems" may not be possible with this experience.
 
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In my opinion if you are looking to get a mind fuck, you are going to get what you ask for, especially with mushrooms. They will annihilate you at ANY dose if you disrespect them. They are teachers as has been pointed out and they LOVE to dole out lessons about respecting the power of psychedelics... I went through every research chemical I could get my hands on, acid, MDA, crazy combos, LSD... Nothing besides DMT, which is in a league of its own and should NEVER be used as an intro psychedelic, destroyed me as much as mushrooms did. I still respect and revere them to this day. Meaning that I respect them so much, I won't touch them with a ten foot pole unless they somehow find their way into my life on their own again.

If you want a really great psychedelic that will give you the mind fuck you are seeking, teach you about things you never dreamed of, and doesn't commonly push people to the brink of insanity, get some San Pedro and spend the time preparing it for consumption of the mescaline... The world will never be the same to you. By far my favorite substance of all time now that I have realized how empty MDMA is and can't find MDA anywhere.
 
I did mud, shrooms, and LSD all at the same time when I first used drugs other than weed, seemed to work for me! Was pretty battered but was all good fun!!

Was a good way to celebrate finishing my gcse's...
 
I did leave an hour between each of them though.... So I was trying to stay safe!
 
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