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Which MDMA Molecul is the right one?

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Good Evening Guy's,

i just did sign up because i need your help.

I need for a GOA T-Shirts with a MDMA Molecul, but there are so many different Moleculs so i still dont know what is the right one maybe you can tell me what is the right one and what is the Difference.

Even Wikipedia has different Informations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDMA

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDMA#/...DMA-Formel.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../b/ba/MDMA.png

http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publicat...-profiles/mdma

Thanks for reading, i appreciate every Answer !

Thank you in Advance !

Trust
 
All of them are correct, however, the first one is the most up to date and conventional / recognizable way to draw it.
 
Thanks Mate for the fast answer, can you maybe tell me the Difference between them? I really would like understand them.
 
I could try to explain it fully to you, but for a deep understanding, you'll need the first two years of university level Chemistry classes. Basically, the stick structures (called Kekule structures) represent various atoms bonded together (each line is a chemical bond between atoms; two lines on top of each other is a double bond) to form the 3D molecule known as MDMA. A dark wedge means that bond is coming out of the plane of the screen and towards you; a wedge with lines cut across it means the bond is tilting away from the plane of your computer screen away from you. Most differences in the way a molecule is represented come from flipping the molecule over or on its side (remember the molecule is a 3D structure) or because with single bonds you can rotate the atoms around it 360 degrees unless a ring is involved. Each bend in the structure is understood to be a single carbon atom with between one and four hydrogens attached so that each carbon has a total of 4 bonds and plus hydrogen atoms attached, etc. Anyway, like I said, you'll need to master inorganic and organic chemistry to really probably understand the little bit I've tried to explain to you, but still, I hope that helps.
 
Do they produce slightly different effects or strength, if so which one?

As i know also different left over impurities can sometimes effects experiences at times when not washed enough.
 
turnupboss said:
Do they produce slightly different effects or strength, if so which one?

As i know also different left over impurities can sometimes effects experiences at times when not washed enough.
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Guess you misread. They're all the same. Just wrote differently
 
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Lol Read it is Explained, And It Is Personally Interesting To Me.
 
Mazzab said:
Guess you misread. They're all the same. Just wrote differently
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There is different mdma's i forgot what its called. Different isomers or something which i heard can effect experiences.

Well as long as its proper mdma thats all that matters.
 
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turnupboss said:
There is different mdma's i forgot what its called. Different isomers or something which i heard can effect experiences.

Well as long as its proper mdma thats all that matters.
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Here's a link to the the PIHKAL entry on MDMA. Shulgin mentions the different Isomers. https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal109.shtml
I don't believe there is too much different in the isomers. I think if your looking at different isomers, your trying to split hairs on a furry rave girl's boots.
 
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Mazzab said:
Here's a link to the the PIHKAL entry on MDMA. Shulgin mentions the different Isomers. https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal109.shtml
I don't believe there is too much different in the isomers. I think if your looking at different isomers, your trying to split hairs on a furry rave girl's boots.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, I very well may be, but isn't an isomer the parts of a compound rearranged and pieced together in a different order, for example 5-Methyl-MDA is an isomer of MDMA?

Mirror images (dextro,levo) are enantiomers?

Sorry if this is inaccurate but I saw free chemistry lessons being given out and thought I'd better get in on one haha
 
kosmokramer said:
Mirror images (dextro,levo) are enantiomers?
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yup, we're talking about enantiomers here. enantionmers are one form of stereoisomerism and stereoisomerism is one form of isomerism. 5-mda and mdma are structural isomers (commonly simply called isomers when there is no danger of confusion).

btw: D and L are outdated signifiers (and often horribly confusing to determine). for all cases that are not sugars or amino acids we should use the R/S system (or (+)/(-) if we're talking about the way the enantiomers rotate the plane of polarised light).
 
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