Which is best for a first timer, 2C-I or 2C-E?

[TMNPothead]

I purchased some of both online and received them in the mail today. I have a few buddies that were interested in trying these chemicals out, my question is in the thread title. I will be trying both out eventually but I have a friend who has only tried marijuana and Molly before so I want the best experience for him. Any thoughts or suggestions will be much appreciated. Thanks.

 

[sekio]

2c-e is very powerful and easily a full blown psychedelic; 2c-i is generally reported as being less of a headfuck and "friendlier" in general. They'll both make you a mess if you take enough, however.

10mg 2c-E ~= 20mg 2c-I

 

[allium]

They both are psychedelics, but 2C-I is definetely better for a beginner.
Both can be deep and spiritual or fun. Trips on 2C-I are _generally_ more "light" and fun, and 2C-E trips are _generally_ deep and spiritual.
Also, you can be disappointed in 2C-I after trying 2C-E, it is another reason for trying 2C-I first!

10mg 2c-E ~= 20mg 2c-I

This is good comparison!

 

[moe.ron]

I would definitely go with 2c-i... It's a much gentler compound, but still very psychedelic and if its your first trip altogether you will be more then blown away by 15 or 20 mg of 2c-i.. Honestly I find 2c-i and 2c-e about as different as you can get in the 2c-x's. 2c-i is kind of a candy psych, meaning theirs a bunch of euphoria, positive energy push and stimulation, interesting visuals, mental space not to altered but still in a very psychedelic mind set, nausea pretty non-existent on lower doses. Just a nice solid comfortable recreational trip. A very good starter compound.

2c-e is a lot more of a serious psychedelic (not that 2c-i cant be) that is overall pretty neutral and often overwhelming to those not experienced with psychs. Not to much in the way of euphoria (for me) until marijuana is added into the mix. Also the nausea is overwhelming for me, im pretty much straight poisoned for the first two hours of the eperience. Stimulation can be pretty strong but the push is completely neutral. The visuals are among the strongest I've ever seen from a PEA, and the mental space is one of the most unique i've ever experienced from any psych, very conductive to serious introspective work. A lot of people (myself included) do not consider 2c-e to be a recreational experience, or even fun for that matter. Its a great chemical but not to be taken lightly.

So to me, and this varies so much from person to person its not even funny, 2c-i would be the ideal starting chem, save the 2c-e until your comfortable with tripping.

 

[Solipsis]

Yes 2C-I first, although it's not necessarily that interesting. It doesn't mean you ought to skip it altogether.

I find 20 mg of 2C-I a bit much to compare to 10 mg of 2C-E... maybe that is more like 14-16 mg of 2C-I. The dose-response curve is not linear meaning that above a certain point only a little more can mean a big increase in effect. This is not with every 2C-X but it seems to be true for 2C-E and slightly less true for 2C-I (but still).
20 mg seems to be a good full-on dose for both.

A comparison of 2 compounds is one thing, but I got to say we actually don't really allow 'what should I take' threads, you are walking a fine line, but ok by me.

 

[DwayneHoover]

I would definitely go with 2c-i... It's a much gentler compound, but still very psychedelic and if its your first trip altogether you will be more then blown away by 15 or 20 mg of 2c-i.. Honestly I find 2c-i and 2c-e about as different as you can get in the 2c-x's. 2c-i is kind of a candy psych, meaning theirs a bunch of euphoria, positive energy push and stimulation, interesting visuals, mental space not to altered but still in a very psychedelic mind set, nausea pretty non-existent on lower doses. Just a nice solid comfortable

recreational trip. A very good starter compound.

2c-e is a lot more of a serious psychedelic (not that 2c-i cant be) that is overall pretty neutral and often overwhelming to those not experienced with psychs. Not to much in the way of euphoria (for me) until marijuana is added into the mix. A


lso the nausea is overwhelming for me, im pretty much straight poisoned for the first two hours of the eperience. Stimulation can be pretty strong but the push is completely neutral. The visuals are among the strongest I've ever seen from a PEA, and the mental space is one of the most unique i've ever experienced from any psych, very conductive to serious introspective work. A lot of people (myself included) do not consider 2c-e to be a recreational experience, or even fun for that matter. Its a great chemical but not to be taken lightly.

So to me, and this varies so much from person to person its not even funny, 2c-i would be the ideal starting chem, save the 2c-e until your comfortable with tripping.

As my friend Pewtergod likes to quote frequently at appropriate moments:

"MORE GOOD ADVICE"

Which he got BTW from Robert Fripp's "Exposure" album, track called HÄADEN TWO and is a sample from a talk by J. G. Bennett. ["John Godolphin Bennett (8 June 1897 – 13 December 1974) was a British mathematician, scientist, technologist, industrial research director, and author. He is perhaps best known for his many books on psychology and spirituality, and particularly the teachings of G.I. Gurdjieff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.G._Bennett]

Full sample: "»More good advice could hardly be packed into one sentence than that is there.« Unknown woman's voice: »Both those things were true, that's – (?) definitely true.« Deadly laughter and »Oh dear. Oh dear« " http://www.elephant-talk.com/exposure/expodiff.htm )
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To eliminate the nause/bodyload take 25mg Benedryl (diphendydramine) 30 mins prior to the 2C-E. Works like a charm... turns 2C-E into an almost friendly, gentle beast of a molecule! Well until it starts to work on your head, haha.

 

[seagal26]

I'm definitely going to try this Benadryl thing. I may report back.

 

[ej.exe]

They are both awesome on their own. But I feel you have to have a history of tripping to thoroughly enjoy 2c-e, because its a "darker" trip.

2c-i however is blissful and amazing! I strongly suggest it for someone interested in psychedelics. In fact you're quite lucky to have those as some of your first choices

 

[TMNPothead]

Thanks for all the responses. Pretty much what i expected. I'm thinking I'll start out around 18 mg. of 2C-I and see where that takes me MMM and i found some doses tonight, so I'm thinking it's going to be a fun weekend!