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Trigger Warning Which drugs have had the worse effect on your mental health that were hardest to quit?

Meth had a really good effect on my mental health, the problem was I thought I could be on it everywhere at all times. No one else was likely to agree
 
CalicoCatLover said:
Meth had a really good effect on my mental health, the problem was I thought I could be on it everywhere at all times. No one else was likely to agree
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I've heard it's a terrible drug ,maybe it could have some benefits for mental health in very small micro doses but I really doubt it
 
CalicoCatLover said:
Imo, and I have tried every anti depressant in the dsm 5, it is an anti depressant. Its Freudian.
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I cannot stand anti depressants, you might even say I have a conspiracy theory regarding them
Doctors will hand different ones out like candy just because they are non addictive
 
They are not addictive, but they sure as hell can create a dependence. No different to opiates, it's just that they take much longer to develop a tolerance. When you take an opiate, tolerance starts to develop immediately. When you take an antidepressant, you're told to take it for a minimum of 6 weeks. By then, you start to develop a tolerance. When you're on it for several months, then your tolerance starts to build up slowly, and you become more dependend upon it. Then the dose might go up because it craps out, like many antidepressants. I know as I've tried lots. Sertraline was a nice one, in that I stopped giving a fuck about anything, but it made me do shit like violent stuff. If I saw someone doing one of the things I am vehmently opposed to I'd probably wipe them out if I were on Zoloft. SSRIs are nice for most people, but for people with defective/fried brains (for whatever reason) they can be hazardous.
 
My uncle was prescribed captagon by his doctor in the seventies. He lived very healthy till then, yoga, good food. He took as prescribed only half a pill or was it even a quarter. One day captagon was put on the black list. He got addicted and started studying chemistry books to produce something to get similar results. His addiction got so bad that he lost his marriage, job, burnt his apartment, got into mental institution and committed suicide.
 
Flynnal said:
They are not addictive, but they sure as hell can create a dependence. No different to opiates, it's just that they take much longer to develop a tolerance. When you take an opiate, tolerance starts to develop immediately. When you take an antidepressant, you're told to take it for a minimum of 6 weeks. By then, you start to develop a tolerance. When you're on it for several months, then your tolerance starts to build up slowly, and you become more dependend upon it. Then the dose might go up because it craps out, like many antidepressants. I know as I've tried lots. Sertraline was a nice one, in that I stopped giving a fuck about anything, but it made me do shit like violent stuff. If I saw someone doing one of the things I am vehmently opposed to I'd probably wipe them out if I were on Zoloft. SSRIs are nice for most people, but for people with defective/fried brains (for whatever reason) they can be hazardous.
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They make me feel 10x more depressed after taking them so waiting 6 weeks for it to work or not work more likely is a bad joke
 
Flynnal said:
They are not addictive, but they sure as hell can create a dependence. No different to opiates, it's just that they take much longer to develop a tolerance. When you take an opiate, tolerance starts to develop immediately. When you take an antidepressant, you're told to take it for a minimum of 6 weeks. By then, you start to develop a tolerance. When you're on it for several months, then your tolerance starts to build up slowly, and you become more dependend upon it. Then the dose might go up because it craps out, like many antidepressants. I know as I've tried lots. Sertraline was a nice one, in that I stopped giving a fuck about anything, but it made me do shit like violent stuff. If I saw someone doing one of the things I am vehmently opposed to I'd probably wipe them out if I were on Zoloft. SSRIs are nice for most people, but for people with defective/fried brains (for whatever reason) they can be hazardous.
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Prozac made me violent as hell, but I do mostly blame the poor selection at the mall....clothing fit :x
 
CalicoCatLover said:
Prozac made me violent as hell, but I do mostly blame the poor selection at the mall....clothing fit :x
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I suspect Sertraline would make me kill someone, and I can't risk that because there are certain people out there I'd want to rub out if I ever were going to do something like that, and I just don't want to do that as I'm a very peaceful (but very angry) man. It's not prison or death that scares me. It's the shame, the social shame and the fact that my sisters and family would probably disown me...maybe except one of my stepsisters as she and her husband (who, strangely enough, was an ex-State prosecutor who dealt with some very difficult cases) would probably understand why I would have done such a thing, BUT I sure as hell am not going to be responsible for someone else's death or serious injury. Everyone else- my uncles and aunts, my dad, my stepmother, my blood sisters, my half-sister, and my other stepsister would probably wash their hands of me if I were convicted of murder or convicted of a very serious assault. Oh, and my social workers would also cut me off. People don't like people who hurt people, and it doesn't matter what the reason, because it would have meant I lowered myself down to the level of whoever it was I hurt. That's not a good look. It's not a good look at all. It's just not good.

Mirtazapine made me calm, more stable, made me less likely to hurt someone, and actually improved my sexual function. Just one problem is it would dry my mouth, and it also made me want to eat all the wrong stuff, and a LOT of it too. So, all in all it was a great antidepressant and I'm seriously considering reinstating it because it helped so much, but the weight gain was a bitch to deal with and I'm getting older so will need to be more careful with things that cause weight gain. Also, I will need to exercise a lot more than what I have been. I've hardly done much since COVID made its debut. And then the vaccines, I blame them (and COVID) for the problems I have now, but I also partly blame myself for not keeping myself nice and fit...that is entirely my fault.
 
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Flynnal said:
I suspect Sertraline would make me kill someone, and I can't risk that because there are certain people out there I'd want to rub out if I ever were going to do something like that, and I just don't want to do that as I'm a very peaceful (but very angry) man. It's not prison or death that scares me. It's the shame, the social shame and the fact that my sisters and family would probably disown me...maybe except one of my stepsisters as she and her husband (who, strangely enough, was an ex-State prosecutor who dealt with some very difficult cases) would probably understand why I would have done such a thing, BUT I sure as hell am not going to be responsible for someone else's death or serious injury. Everyone else- my uncles and aunts, my dad, my stepmother, my blood sisters, my half-sister, and my other stepsister would probably wash their hands of me if I were convicted of murder or convicted of a very serious assault. Oh, and my social workers would also cut me off. People don't like people who hurt people, and it doesn't matter what the reason, because it would have meant I lowered myself down to the level of whoever it was I hurt. That's not a good look. It's not a good look at all. It's just not good.

Mirtazapine made me calm, more stable, made me less likely to hurt someone, and actually improved my sexual function. Just one problem is it would dry my mouth, and it also made me want to eat all the wrong stuff, and a LOT of it too. So, all in all it was a great antidepressant and I'm seriously considering reinstating it because it helped so much, but the weight gain was a bitch to deal with and I'm getting older so will need to be more careful with things that cause weight gain. Also, I will need to exercise a lot more than what I have been. I've hardly done much since COVID made its debut. And then the vaccines, I blame them (and COVID) for the problems I have now, but I also partly blame myself for not keeping myself nice and fit...that is entirely my fault.
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I think I felt generally enraged on the Prozac. Then I tried to shopping at the mall and I couldn't find anything I liked so I became incensed and threw a bunch of clothes around in fitting rooms crying.

Klonopin is what works for me ...the secret is not letting the doc know it helps me lose weight.
 
CalicoCatLover said:
I think I felt generally enraged on the Prozac. Then I tried to shopping at the mall and I couldn't find anything I liked so I became incensed and threw a bunch of clothes around in fitting rooms crying.

Klonopin is what works for me ...the secret is not letting the doc know it helps me lose weight.
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Clonazepam helps you lose weight? That's something I've never considered. How, exactly, does it do that for you? If you wouldn't mind elaborating on why. I had no idea this drug helped with that. I thought it helped with anxiety and the ear neuropathy that I have (it sure helps with Menieres attacks).

But the bad part is it can make me have tremendous rages on the rebound. Super intense, ultra-violent impulses to destroy things. If I were to be faced with certain people I hated (not just disliked, but actually hated) whilst going through that, it would be catastrophic.
 
Flynnal said:
Clonazepam helps you lose weight? That's something I've never considered. How, exactly, does it do that for you? If you wouldn't mind elaborating on why. I had no idea this drug helped with that. I thought it helped with anxiety and the ear neuropathy that I have (it sure helps with Menieres attacks).

But the bad part is it can make me have tremendous rages on the rebound. Super intense, ultra-violent impulses to destroy things. If I were to be faced with certain people I hated (not just disliked, but actually hated) whilst going through that, it would be catastrophic.
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I was already eating disordered, so my brain is just wired differently. Something about being calm all day helps me focus on my goal and not eat. Like it fulfills a need emotionally too, so I don't need to go looking to food to fill that feeling. I suffer from disgusting bulimic episodes without it though, so better the doctor lets me have it.
 
CalicoCatLover said:
I was already eating disordered, so my brain is just wired differently. Something about being calm all day helps me focus on my goal and not eat. Like it fulfills a need emotionally too, so I don't need to go looking to food to fill that feeling. I suffer from disgusting bulimic episodes without it though, so better the doctor lets me have it.
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I should say that to my doctor, but I bet they wouldn't allow me to take it. I take it you're in the USA and not Australia. In the USA, doctors have a little more leeway than they do here. I could be happy to take the clonazepam every day; half a tablet twice a day would be life-changing for me...but nah, the doctors wouldn't have a bar of it. The rebound rage attacks are a good clue as to how shitty and screwed up my life is.
 
Sounds like a serious problem. Hope you manage to deal. I was once found out smashing glass in my basement. The pile of glass was found because I just left it behind a large crate. It was my smashing corner. I had to tell them, I just felt angry.
 
Soso78 said:
Crack affected my mental health more than any other drug towards the end of the 15 year addiction I was unpredictable and not the best person.
Methadone was the hardest to quit. Was in withdrawal for weeks.
I always feel bad for the people in America that say they are on 200-300+ mg of methadone. I can’t see people having it in them to get off that.
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How some states look at methadone clinics as harm reduction is absolutely insane. It is almost as if, they just want you on their drugs instead of street drugs...
 
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