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Which 2c is the most headfucky? Which is the least?

QuasiModo

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2c-b has been wonderful to me. I love everything about it but I want to explore a compound which is more existentially demanding, one which calls to my strengths and weaknesses, gives me a rough time but keeps me interested nonetheless. 2c-e is next on my list, from my readings as far in the other direction as 2c-b.. But then my understanding of the series character ends..

Tell me of each, hopefully in contrast and comparison to 2c-b so I know what I'm in for.
Moderator edit: don't. please try to give a perspective on how much of a mindfuck the compounds in the 2C-X series each have but refrain from recommending 1 compound in your post and leaving it at that.

This may be merged into the Big & Dandy 2C-X Comparison Thread if need be.
 
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ever try a tryptamine?

Ive done 2ci and 2ce before and ive heard 2ce is more head warping than 2cb, but none of the 2cs have compared to say 4acodmt in terms of your "existentially demanding" wishes. 2ce is a good step up imo, or you could try 2ci first thats less of a headfuck.
 
Only the tryptamines present in mushrooms, no RC trypts yet.. They don't really interest me to be honest as shrooms have always been around when I've needed them, aside from aMT as that's a bit different than the 4-subbed tryptamines. My current obsession is the 2c series for sure.
 
So youve been there then, friend. Sounds cool. I guess I would say go ahead with the 2ce then. Ive read things about 2ct2 and other 2ct's being pretty good for the services you seek, but they also have potential to be maoi's.
 
2C-C is gentle, 2C-E is mental. E's definitely headfucky in a different way to shrooms though, it's not that torrent of concepts and ideas, more detached and analytical, but it's quite... strange and forceful, I'd say. 2C-C is (as you'd expect from the structure) more like 2C-B, more sedating though, and even milder. I really like both of them.
 
I know 2C-P can be a little, apparently 2C-E is rather good for that too, but haven't tried it yet. Now DOC, thats headfucky! All good fun though.
 
2c-I is probably my favourite... shit made me trip harder than I ever have in my entire life. Completely fucked with my head lol but I loved it at the same time.
 
How much have did you take??? 2C-I is my least favourite, it's too stimulating and introspective imo. YMMV.
 
QuasiModo said:
2c-b has been wonderful to me. I love everything about it but I want to explore a compound which is more existentially demanding, one which calls to my strengths and weaknesses, gives me a rough time but keeps me interested nonetheless.
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2C-E. Extremely demanding, if you plug it, it'll come on in 5 minutes and continue pounding you with a torrent of body load until you puke your guts out. I ended up taking the valium way out. It was one of the most savage trips I have ever experienced.

2C-T-2 is the same molecule except with a sulphur atom between the ethyl group and the ring. It's blissfully deep with a warm empathogenic glow. All the depth of 2C-E with none of the fear. Of course YMMV.

Compared to those 2, 2C-B is pretty mild. The alkyl/thioalkyl 2C's are much more deep than the halogens.
 
I knew I should have thrown in the exception. I was thinking of 2C-D as I was writing that.

No, 2C-D is a bit on the lighter side but it's very clear. It's likely the cleanest of all the 2C's, no real signature to it, like LSD-lite. It also lasts only 4 hours so it's good if you don't want something too long.

OTOH, my last trip a year ago was 2C-D and amphetamine. I was taking it as an enhancer to the amp. (15mg 2C-D, 15mg amp) and it ended up being very psychologically digging. Set played a key role, I had a lot on my mind and was not expecting such a low dose of 2C-D to do much... but it sure did.

I haven't tripped since. I guess it was kinda strong. No visuals or anything, just forced me to think about things I didn't want to think about.
 
That's a hard question to answer. I've done 2cb, 2ci, 2ce, and 2cp. I've had some pretty intense mental trips on 2cp, but also on 2ci. Set and setting definitely have to be taken in to consideration. I have to say I least liked 2ce, the nausea was just ridiculous. On 2ce, although I had trouble vocalizing my thoughts, they were crystal clear inside my head. Lately I like 2cp the most, very powerful but very rewarding. I can get lost inside my mind for hours, if the dose is right.
 
I would say 2cb - it is extremely euphoric with awesome visuals but seems very benign on the mind and body......all around an excellent psychedelic.
 
^ He said he's looking for something other than 2C-B; which he already likes. He's looking for something more deep/demanding.

Agreed on 2C-B being a wonderful drug though. 2C-B+MDMA is likely my all time favorite recreational psychedelic experience.
 
2C-E is a great choice for this. My personal fave is 2C-T-2. It's not headfucky in your shroomy-acidy sense, but it works from a deeper emotional tangent. It can indeed be "existentially challenging". If there was only one synthetic phenethylamine left that I could ever choose, it would be 2C-T-2 because it does everything I want and need of a great psychedelic and more. I always come out of a 2C-T-2 trip with the sense that I've revisited something I keep forgetting, something important and rejuvenating to touch base with.

What I see and learn from a 2C-T-2 trip always makes so much sense. Rather than being torrents of absurdistic conceptual challenges in technicolour, it is more of a naturally-feeling guidance through everything you know you needed to feel and remember but forgot.
 
Survived Abortion said:
2C-E is a great choice for this. My personal fave is 2C-T-2. It's not headfucky in your shroomy-acidy sense, but it works from a deeper emotional tangent. It can indeed be "existentially challenging". If there was only one synthetic phenethylamine left that I could ever choose, it would be 2C-T-2 because it does everything I want and need of a great psychedelic and more. I always come out of a 2C-T-2 trip with the sense that I've revisited something I keep forgetting, something important and rejuvenating to touch base with.

What I see and learn from a 2C-T-2 trip always makes so much sense. Rather than being torrents of absurdistic conceptual challenges in technicolour, it is more of a naturally-feeling guidance through everything you know you needed to feel and remember but forgot.
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Absolutely resonated, every bit of it. Best 2C there is. :)
 
Adding to my comment above, 2C-P is a lovely compound - has a good mix of depth and visual effects. Plus its effects on music are pretty spectacular. The headspace is very non-threatening on 2C-P, but pretty deep. Good for exploring ones personality - very analytical in that sense, but without some of the psychological discomfort that comes with some other chemicals. Be quite careful with dosing, the dose response curve is apparently pretty steep with 2C-P.

If you are new to psychedelic phenethylamines, the DOx (well I've only tried DOC, will be trying DOI soon though) are perhaps a bit too manic and intense. Last trip I had on DOC was insane, and i'm pretty experienced with tripping.
 
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I took 45mg and it was the best time of my life :D
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I took that much and had the most intense trip of my life. I couldn't read words or the time, i could barely see anything past the visuals. Crazy and overwhelming for me, but in hindsight pretty damn fun.
 
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