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Where was I? The story, and ANOTHER reason to avoid anti-d's

Woah... I think MY point is a little lost here.... Wellbutrin is not a "tool of the devil" or anything like that... I was simply trying to warn people to the REALITY that these drugs are NOT without their risks.... it seems you're not given a single milligram of codeine without a lecture about the evils of addiction and how that one pill will turn you into a junkie, but when it comes to anti-d's - and I mean ALL OF THEM - SSRI's, SDRI's, SNRI's, TAD's, and those freakish ones too, it seems doctors can't write scripts fast enough... oh, not working? Well up the dose!
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..Phreex: I was on Wellbutrin for a few months... made my depression worse than it was and I always felt like I was rolling.. (big eyes/jaw clenching).. also completely threw my sleep cycle off course.. IMO it's EVIL! just my two cents
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I am not trying to be mean or anything, I have a lot of respect for you and what you know, but I just don’t get it….enlighten (and flame of course) as you must. ……
Preaching about the evils of "Wellbutrin Withdral"to the masses when you draw from an example who is cross addicted to multiple substances for prolonged periods is sort of misleading isn't it? Yeah I know you are a ‘good ‘heroin addict who DT’s every month (why do you bother?)…still, maybe it was you dude, how long were you clean? A week a month? Not even close to enough time to say that you were back at baseline.…. I have known lots of folks, myself included, that stopped taking it abruptly and had NONE of the effects you describe. I also know heroin addicts who quit and suffer from depression and anxiety for months after the last dose. Why? Who knows how having benzo's on board EVERYDAY effected the way Wellbutrin was working for you. Who knows how your reward system has been effected by the pounds of drugs you have thrown into it on a regular basis? Do you drink? How is your diet? They do not yet understand this reward pathway yet.
“Pharmacodynamics and pharmacology of Benzodiazapines and Buprion in vivo”……uh…. I haven’t read that study yet.... Heck they don't even know how Wellbutrin works even less how it interacts with other psychoactive drugs. Who is to say your lifestyle didn't play a big part in your “Withdrawl?" I mean I know you are hard core and all, but really PhreeX, this bit of hysteria seems a little misguided.
 
Well back when I was 18, I was given prozac for depression.I had to stop taking it becuase of extreme panic attacks and hallucinations(visual).And some weeks back I stopped taking a trycyclic called tofranil(imipramine).I believe that this med set off a psychotic/manic episode in me.I was bugged out for almost 2 weeks, tho the second week was the worst of it.
Oh and paxil made me hallucinate too.
 
Uh... yeah, the heroin, meth and whatever else have their side effects, you know about it and deal with it. But when it gets really rough and there are real problems, oh it must be the 'prescribed' meds that are responsible. Come on. You are the most knowledgeable person I have ever seen regarding different substances. Don't dilute yourself and rationalize that it was the WB that was solely responsible.
 
Maybe you missed the part of his original post that said he had totally withdrawn from opiates and felt fine prior to the WellButrin ordreal. And I am pretty sure PhreeX hasn't touched meth (enough to get withdrawal symptoms) in a real LONG time; he just used the severity of withdrawal from meth as a comparison. Oh yeah, that's right, you didn't actually read his post did you?
 
Yeah, because a week of being clean means everything was out of his system and all effects were over. Oh yeah, and then having someone deliver to him and then taking other substances to 'feel' better surely helped to 'cure' the problems. Oh yeah, that's right, you didn't actually think about his post, did you??!!
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It's fair to make the assumption that the Wellbutrin is not the real problem, and that it's one of the other drugs I have been using responsible for the depression - so I will adress these issues...
First, what other drugs have I taken? It's a short list - narcotics, namely OxyContin, a little heroin from time to time, fentanyl patches, hydrocodone combos, etc.. could these drugs be responsible for the depression? Yes, they certinly could as depression accompanies withdrawal... the thing is, I have been free of these drugs for a week - yes, this doesn't mean I am back to "baseline" - but I have been playing this game for almost 3 years, that is, a few weeks of narcotic use followed by a few weeks of non-use - the only thing that was differnt this time was the Wellbutrin... furthermore, if it was related to the narcotics, then all would have been better when I picked up use... sure, the dope eased the pain but I have kicked enough times to know that when the body is suffering narcotic withdrawal, if you smack a 100ug/hour fentanyl patch on, you feel better... if you load a rig with some high quality smack, all the pain and mental anguish fades away... if you rail up an OC-40, you are NOT SO DEPRESSED YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE ... I have used and abused narcotics long enough to know how I react to them, or their abscence..
What about the benzos? Quick lesson on drug dependance - increased use doesn't induce withdrawal symptoms, it's the oposite...
I was feeling fine, then within a few days after I stopped taking the Wellbutrin I gradually got worse... yes, it could be attributed to narcotics or benzos, but you don't know the situation well enough to make that diagnosis...
Think what you like, but I gotta say this had more to do with the Wellbutrin then anything else...
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I have been fortuante enough to have never been addicted to oppiates or been depressed to the point were anti-d's were neccessary. But in my opinion, you should start meditating. All I mean by that is you (no one in particular, this is not meant to be directed at any one person) should sit in a dark room, close your eyes, and listen to the thoughts zoom around in your head until they stop zooming. Do this for three days and I'll bet you feel much better. Ohh ya, smoke a fat shwag joint when you want to go to sleep instead of popping a pill. Carlos Castaneda (an author) might have some insight into your problems.
hope I helped
peace
 
I once went on a clonazepam binge, 4-6mg/day for 2 weeks, the day after I ran out I had seizure and landed in the ER. I had never had a seizure before and haven't had one since, so watch that shit, unless of course you're a masochist.
 
Meditation? Marijuana? Sorry, I will take my chances with Wellbutrin..
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peace
 
Damn SSRIs.
Glad to have you back, I for one, missed you.
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