When Snorting Heroin is No Longer Practical

[xxanxxtwo]

There is no reason to minimize the OP's habit simply because he/she is not IVing......it is still extremely hard to quit/taper. Again, I would go with Phrozen's advice of taking a break for a while - if you cannot afford to be sick then taper down (if you can't do it have someone else hold onto your stuff), until you can go cold turkey.

Either way, I wish the best of luck to you as I have been there and am there right now. Day 4, cold turkey from 240mg a day oxycodone IV. Cheers

 

[realm]

quit for a couple months dude. i havent touched heroin in 3 years personally but i quit the second i thought of IV. if you feel youre out of control with the sniffing already definitely do not IV.

 

[LivingOnValium]

Maybe its easy for you but when it comes down to a choice between getting sick and getting high thats a very hard choice to make. my very good friend is a junkie and the way hes life revolves around heroin is scary.

When you go for the needle and get used to it / it becomes like your second nature. ....and so on.

I speak from my own experience.

 

[narutokun]

When you go for the needle and get used to it / it becomes like your second nature. ....and so on.

I speak from my own experience.

i totaly agree lol sometimes ppl will even shoot water and get a placebo effect thinking that they got high

 

[skeetos]

SonOf, I am in the EXACT same situation as you my friend so I feel for you completely. I'm only snorting my dope and have been doing so for a couple years off and on. Soooo many of my friends try to convince me I'm wasting it and that I need to shoot it but I've always had real bad needle-phobia so it's really never crossed my mind.

This summer I got a great job so I was doing a LOT more than I ever had before. I used to be able to catch a nod off half a bag and now it takes at least 2-3 snorted to get where I like to be, of course depending on quality and size. To top all this off, I'm a college student and I go to school 4 hours south of where I live. Long story short, the dope here at school is a joke compared to back at home so I'm making 10 hour round trips so I can get some dope that will actually get me a buzz. As you can imagine this is killing my schoolwork and car, so I'm trying to find out what I can do as well.

I tried an 8mg suboxone last week and was thrown into the worst withdrawals EVER! I know it's because I did it too soon, but I'd never had problems before when my tolerance was half what it is now. So now I'm scared to try it again.

My personal advice is to try and lower your tolerance, and I recommend doing so with poppy pods. They have been my only savior when I'm sick and out of dope. And surprising even with my tolerance it only takes like 8 jumbos to get a pretty good buzz going that lasts almost all day. Of course I recommend starting out and weening yourself down day to day until you decide you wanna get high again. Another benefit of pods is they are real cheap right now and very accessable. I can get a good day-long buzz for under $10. whatever you decide I wish you luck, wish me luck too!

 

[sixpartseven]

Does anyone like needles? I mean, I am not afraid of them like some people, but the idea of injecting myself still makes me a bit anxious.

Im obsessed with them since I started IVing. If I could bang some tylenol when I had a headache, I would.

 

[unsui]

yeah i used to snort black tar for a year. now i have switched to IV and haven't gone back to sniffing it. well i did try it again, but failed miserably to get high. i agree, once you get used to IVing it becomes like a second nature. i would suggest never trying IV as it will just be that much harder to kick the habit. i need some good poppy pods to keep me away for a while. anyone recommend any good/reliable sites?

anybody used the pod tea to help manage a heroin habit? i already know it's generally not a good idea to just switch opiates, but hey buying pods and ingesting them is a whole lot better than buying smack off the streets from my local vatos andputting that shit in my veins.

 

[ChemicalSmiles]

LAcey, I have read many of your posts and enjoy what you have to offer to BL and you make me laugh when I really need it sometimes. And I too thought that $20 bags did not exist. Up in milwaukee/chicago you got almost all $10 bags of what we call scramble, and u got 6 bags for $50. However, when I moved to Wilmington, NC I was shocked to find that bags went for $20 and bundles were found for $150-170. Yes, I was shocked but its true.

 

[ChemicalSmiles]

i totaly agree lol sometimes ppl will even shoot water and get a placebo effect thinking that they got high

Thats stupid, but I somehow believe it.

 

[johanneschimpo]

LAcey, I have read many of your posts and enjoy what you have to offer to BL and you make me laugh when I really need it sometimes. And I too thought that $20 bags did not exist. Up in milwaukee/chicago you got almost all $10 bags of what we call scramble, and u got 6 bags for $50. However, when I moved to Wilmington, NC I was shocked to find that bags went for $20 and bundles were found for $150-170. Yes, I was shocked but its true.

Yeah because you're in a not-so-good location. Not as bad as Nebraska or somewhere like that, but like I think it was you that mentioned it in another thread maybe, your dope has to come down from NY/NJ or somewhere else up in the NE, so there's a heavy tax.

 

[sixpartseven]

I dont think they mean they are getting charged 20 dollars for what should be a 10 dollar bag. Ive seen people sell 20 dollar bags that are actually the size of two 10 dollar bags. I dont see why that sounds so wrong. Ive seen 10 dollar bags, 20's, and 40's, and all of them were the same size or bigger than what you would get buying two 10's or four 10's, so its not like there was just a huge tax being put on them.

Maybe Im missing what was originally being talked about by Lacey K and ChemicalSmile, but I dont get why they dont think 20 dollar bags dont exist. If that isnt what either of you were saying, then I apologize.

 

[Khadijah]

Its becuz they dont exist here. Like if you want $20 worth you just get 2 bags. If you want $40, you get 4 bags. Its like buying weed in dimes, when your boy wont sell anything more than dimes, no eighths or quarters, just dimes, you dig?

Out this way , Theres just bags. Not small medium or large. Just one size fits all. And it costs $10. the only thing that changes is the price when you buy more bags, it goes down. there is no other size bag tho where im at. Not sayin there aint no such thing anywhere else, but me and the OP live within a hour or 2 of eachother so we are in the same region, so thats why i was speakin like that before.

 

[PhillyDedHed]

I went from snorting to shooting 3 years ago due to cost as well. I ended up on the streets of NYC on and off for 2 years shooting dope in squats and shooting galleries and barely scratching out any form of an existence. Did the switch to the needle cause all this hell? No

What I chose to do with said needle and the actions leading up to me finding product to put in said needle day after day is what caused my life to spiral to the point of insanity and living in a shitty part of a city doing anything I could to get my next fix. Maintaining a large habit is bad enough with a job and a life, try being homeless and broke. I use to see my addiction in terms of Ipods, if I could steal 2 Ipods i was gonna get high/stay well for a day. It's sad

Stupid NJ/NY heroin Stuff is to good for its own damn self! I'm a methadone baby now, 110mg daily! Haven't shot dope in a month + cause I know it will do nothing, unless I feel like shooting 8-10 bags at a time. No thanks!

Edit: If he is in the general east coast area I am in, bags are generally 10 a piece but in the last year 7-8$in a certain city or two in New Jersey. Most of Jersey is a one size wax bag with different stamps throughout the year. Bag size rarely changes, but if you know your dude good you can get grams and more of the powder. My main guy for 2.5+ years eventually just gave me straight up powder in grams instead of bricks (5 Bundles where I Live) Oddly enough New Yorks certain areas tends to sell many different size bags and the ability to get grams and 8ths is much easier then most east coast states.

 

[phr]

^
Right.

At this point, picking up the needle isn't a wise decision. Like I said before, you let snorting get out of control, and controlling a needle is much harder. It's amazing how fast you'll start spiraling down once you jab a vein.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should never iv stuff. IV'ing is great, and I'd recommend it to anyone that likes intranasal/oral opiates. But, there's a right and wrong time to do it.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

Its becuz they dont exist here.....

Yea every region has it's own little 'isms'. I know in Bodymore that there's "scramble" and "raw" and no one knows what the fuck that means unless you've been there. Bmore is also famous for the little glass vials the raw comes in, they don't use stamp bags. They are glass vials with classic orange tops (although I've seen novelty sellers do black). Raw is always in 20s, scramble in 10s. In DC they are always wax bags in $6 bags.

It's just different from city to city.

If you like snorting, then whatever. I must say that IV is alot better in every respect, but that's completely personal preference. But do not switch to IV to continue a habit and because it's getting to expensive. Only reason you should switch to IV is because you are curious and want a new experience.

I strongly recommend you break your tolerance and habit before trying IV out.

 

[phr]

In the major heroin(powder) cities(NYC, Philly, Baltimore, Chicago, NJ) 100mg typically goes for $10. The farther away you get from the cities, even in the same state, a premium gets added. The dealers could get away with this as there isn't much competition.

Also, some cities have bags that are cheaper than $10. From my understanding, that's most common in NJ. But, in NYC/Philly/Camden, a typical stamp still goes for $10. And at least in Philly, they've been $10 even in 1990.

Of course your connection, and how long/well you know them, could affect price. There are plenty of long term users that get bags cheaper either because they know their connection very well, or because of a bulk discount.

 

[Khadijah]

Yea I know the cities you are referrin to. The bags be like 6-8 bucks sometimes. That aint bad considering that even marked-up and brought out to the suburbs a bag is still 10 cuz they got it for a few bucks less. meanwhile cats pay 20 for a 10bag in NJ some places cuz theyre dumb. I did that one time in my life, not outta stupidity of for not knowin better, but for convenience and it relaly wasnt worth it at all. Anyways, sorry for the off topic but its a interestin subject.

 

[dankstersauce]

i think the only options are to quit or start IV'ing.

Neither seem practical when you love the shit.
kinda like "i love opiates, so i don't want to stop" but "if i start IV'ing I know I'm going to be taking a step in a dark depressing direction"

I was one of many that went from being deathly afraid of needles, to being able to mix up a shot and hit a vein while driving on the expressway.


My guess is that you'll take a break...after a few days/weeks you'll feel like you earned a couple bags (anyway whats the point of getting just one bag right?). Then you'll give IV a try, you;ll love it, but don't want to be a needle user. So you'll take breaks every few days mostly still sniffing, and eventually it'll come to a point where IV'ing seems rational. Then the race is off from there...
^^^actually, i don't know if that'll happen to you, i don't even know you. But it did happen to me.

your stuck in a shit situation and it isn't going to get any better so long as you keep using that shit.

 

[phr]

Yea I know the cities you are referrin to. The bags be like 6-8 bucks sometimes. That aint bad considering that even marked-up and brought out to the suburbs a bag is still 10 cuz they got it for a few bucks less. meanwhile cats pay 20 for a 10bag in NJ some places cuz theyre dumb. I did that one time in my life, not outta stupidity of for not knowin better, but for convenience and it relaly wasnt worth it at all. Anyways, sorry for the off topic but its a interestin subject.

You gotta remember that suburbs in Jersey are different than that suburbs in other states. I've heard some people call the whole state "one big city." I don't necessarily agree with that, but the population density is a lot higher than most places, even in the NJ suburbs.

 

[larrymerchant]

Sc

I've used a variety of pk's recreationally my whole life; snorting was not an option. I used to IV in the mistaken belief that my tolerance would protect me from an OD. When the internet allowed extensive research I was scared, not exactly straight, but off IV. SC has been a great solution. I have to think I.m getting 85% of what I'm paying for w/o the risk of death by misadventure which comes with IV no matter one's tolerance.