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When Snorting Heroin is No Longer Practical

i fucking love needles.

also, snorting is just as addictive a MOA as IVing in my opinion. its just about the prep. when i was crushing and snorting OCs, the whole ritual had me hooked. Now i IV heroin, and the ritual is fun again but ive never done it more then once or twice a week.

if your a heroin addict snorting heroin i doubt it will be much different to shooting it. either way your an addict.
 
I'm also really curious about this too. The toughest thing for me when stopping is the boredom that comes along withdrawing. I can get through the physical pain, but what really gets to me is the boredom.
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Well that's referring to psychological addiction, which we could spend years arguing about and getting no where. I know I have and I've been chipping heroin for years, but it doesn't mean much.

Let's just focus on the short-term here, you're physical addiction.

Just detox enough so you lose your tolerance. If you really want to press the price of heroin in the short term here (ie iv heroin may end up costing you more in the long term), ditch the tolerance, then switch to IV, and in that order.

You'll know when your clean. Your piss won't smell like dope and you won't have a fucked up nasal issues anymore (runny nose and the like).

And you'll get fucking blasted off just a little bit.
 
I would go with C or D. As you have said, D is the healthiest option to go with, but in an addiction mindstate that can be hard to even contemplate ( at least rationally ).

C - If you can manage to take a break then go for it, reduction of your tolerance would mean saving money by getting high off less dope....for awhile. Eventually though your tolerance is probably going to go right back to where it was when you start using again.


As for the needle, my advice would be not to take that jump man. I've been there, done it, and while the rush may be great and the money will be saved, the problems will return 10 fold in time.
 
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SonOF said:
Does anyone like needles? ;) I mean, I am not afraid of them like some people, but the idea of injecting myself still makes me a bit anxious.
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i love needles lol imo injecting iv is the best moa if you do it right and have the proper stuff to inject; once you feel the rush you don't wanna go back to eating, snorting, pluggin your stuff......8(
 
id be scared that id mess up and be unable to register a vein, or that my hands would get shaky. Also the anticipation of the rush would probably give me an anxiety attack.
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oh hey if you are like that watch out when injecting upperz lol if you are already anxious before injecting after you shoot you may even have a stroke lol
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
Take a break.

5-6 bags right, that's like anywhere from 50-100 bones. .
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WTF are u talkin about dude? 100 dollas for 5 bags?

I see youre right back at it with your nonsense posts man.. CR, its been a while but damn you still like to post ridiculous shit. /offtopic

Anyways,

SonOF, I feel you Im in the same situation right now. Its a fuckin bitch thats for sure.

I think what you should do is this.

----Stock up on some methadone (I dont know bupe or sub, never used either, only done.)

----Grab like 6 bags of some fire shit.

----Plan a week where you aint got jack shit to do.

----Cop a quarter of some decent nugs and 7 dutchies or blunt of your choice.

----Get ahold of some benzos if you can.

Aight, now the plan starts.

Take those bags, have your fun and get so high colors are sounds and you cant feel a thing. go as far as you need to. just indulge in that fuckin sweet spot that feels so wrong and so right.

Next mornin, wake up with some coffee and the most inspirin, "its gonna be OK" style music you can think of. "We gon make it" by dblock or some shit, and dose your methadone. Psych yourself up. On this day, start savin money for a dope fund.

Smoke your blunt to the face once its later on at night....Have some good movies rented, good shows on TV, whatever. keep yourself occupied.

Every mornin when you wake up, throw on some more of that uplifting music and shit that helps get you thru. keep thinkin about how great its gonna be gettin high after your clean for a while. And how you aint got it now, but the waiting will just make it sweeter.

Repeat this plan for a week, throw in the benzos where and when needed to help you sleep and releive Crazy Legs and Crawly Skin (The official medical terms ;) for the insane feelings of W/d) and your methadone to kill the deep aches and pains.

After a week you should be decently detoxed, you might still have the mental, i know i would. But just keep yourself busy. Prepare all you can. Keep savin up money , buy some new razorblade, get a cool lil box to store your bags in, ya know like drug accessories. After you make it thru the "Living life without heroin as my constant goal on the horizon helping me get thru the day" faze, then you should be alot less feenish. Im detoxed now but man i still feen its been 6 days. Anyways,

keep on the plan for like a month if you can stay that long. Then at the end, buy a nice fat bundle or two with the dope fund, and celebrate that you only need 2 bags to get off.

I really hope it works for ya, and i wish i had teh connections and cash to follow my own plan, cuz i know it would definately work for me. Im wishin you mad luck dude.

Just keep reminding yourself that its gonna be there when you get back, and how fun its gonna be, and how good you make yourself feel for being 'good' for this long. i kno rigt now, i aint been straight this long in i dont know how long, and i feel shitty but also kinda good about myself, so just try and keep your head up.
 
SonOF said:
Does anyone like needles? ;) I mean, I am not afraid of them like some people, but the idea of injecting myself still makes me a bit anxious.
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I am extremely addicted to needles. I have shot ritalin, alcohol, and just plain water before when I couldn't get any opiods.... If I even see a needle I shudder uncontrolably and become extremely anxious, not because I am freaked out but because I want the needle in my arm. Sad, I know.....

Anyway, I would follow phrozen's advice.
 
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lacey k said:
WTF are u talkin about dude? 100 dollas for 5 bags?

I see youre right back at it with your nonsense posts man.. CR, its been a while but damn you still like to post ridiculous shit. /offtopic
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What right do you have to decide what others pay for drugs and what is bullshit?? Some people pay more, it depends on availability, demand, amount of "heat" around, who you know, etc...
 
WTF are u talkin about dude? 100 dollas for 5 bags?

I see youre right back at it with your nonsense posts man.. CR, its been a while but damn you still like to post ridiculous shit. /offtopic

Anyways,
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Why are you so ignorant and oblivious to what other people may experience?

Some places sell bags by the 20. I know in a certain NE city, the common streetbag is a 20. I know places in other cities that sell $6 bags and $7 bags. Some people I've known just sell bags for only $100.

It's not nonsense shit, I'd say the pluralty of NE Bluelighters would know what I'm talking about too.

Repeat this plan for a week, throw in the benzos where and when needed to help you sleep and releive Crazy Legs and Crawly Skin (The official medical terms for the insane feelings of W/d) and your methadone to kill the deep aches and pains.
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Of course a great idea, like everything you say! While you're at it, smoke some crack cocaine that's real good with keeping the edge off of relatively minor heroin withdrawal from someone who has only snorted it.

Think I'm being dramatic, lacey, post in the darkside and ask around - see which they think is worse, heroin or benzos.

For the sake of your life please don't rely on benzos to help you get off heroin, especially something as minute as this. Maybe once or twice, but don't rely on it. Get some fucking hot chocolate and cigarettes, maybe even bud if you don't think it's fucking disgusting like many heroin users do, maybe some trips, but don't get benzos.
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
Why are you so ignorant and oblivious to what other people may experience?

Some places sell bags by the 20. I know in a certain NE city, the common streetbag is a 20. I know places in other cities that sell $6 bags and $7 bags. Some people I've known just sell bags for only $100.

It's not nonsense shit, I'd say the pluralty of NE Bluelighters would know what I'm talking about too.



Of course a great idea, like everything you say! While you're at it, smoke some crack cocaine that's real good with keeping the edge off of relatively minor heroin withdrawal from someone who has only snorted it.

Think I'm being dramatic, lacey, post in the darkside and ask around - see which they think is worse, heroin or benzos.

For the sake of your life please don't rely on benzos to help you get off heroin, especially something as minute as this. Maybe once or twice, but don't rely on it. Get some fucking hot chocolate and cigarettes, maybe even bud if you don't think it's fucking disgusting like many heroin users do, maybe some trips, but don't get benzos.
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Nah, I didnt mean like get zonked out on the shit. I found that takin one 0.5 mg clonazepam once a day, right before bed, helped me out AMAZINGLY and i didnt really get high or enjoy it, it jst helped me find a lil bit of rest as opposed to "I want to die, tossin and turnin all night, no matter how i move i am uncomfortable" etc.

so im recommending what helped me. I really dont think that usin 0.5mg/day for a couple days as necessary, (not all day and not if you dont need it) is harmful advice. Also, he said hes doin 6-8 bags. Iunno if this means PER DAY or not, but if its per day, regardless of if that shit is snorted, WDs are gonna occur, and they are gonna be a bitch. Why not make yourself as comfortable as possible. It really helps you have mental strenth when your body is feeling better, and keep yourself strong and not be like "Fuckit, ima get high again, i quit quitting." Also, Sonof is a teacher. Im sure he needs to actually sleep at night, and not be crawling outta his skin every single position he tries to move in and end up awake all night in misery. So i was just tryna help. You are right that some bags might be 20s. I thought you were familiar with where he lives at and would be aware that the pricing for bags in the majority of NJ, NY, and Philly, is not in 20s.

Thas all. :)
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
keeping the edge off of relatively minor heroin withdrawal from someone who has only snorted it.

something as minute as this.
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I have about a bundle/day habit. These withdrawals don't feel very minor.:|
 
I'm a guy who swore to never do it.

After getting a tiny bit of black tar recently and smoking most of it, I vowed this would be the first and only time I do it. It's great, but I can easily see how I can fuck myself with this drug, just as I realized with OC.

I am at the smoking stage, chasing the dragon, which is fun and great for the most part.

I would sniff it if it were powder form.

But in your situation it looks like you are in a much farther stage than I am as far as experience, and if I were you I would decide its time to stop. IVing is said to be one of the greatest things in the world, and we both know how that can fuck with your temptations.

SO the show is over, unless you are willing to dump some Vaseline on this already slippery slope you are dancing on.

Option D my friend
 
take a break man, if you are sniffin 5-6 bags a day you obviously have a serious habit and once you start IV'ing it wont be long til your banging 5-6 bags a day. and there are so many risks invovlved with shooting up.

get some buprenorphine and take a break from opioids or quit.

Choose C or D. (IMO C is much more realistic)
 
when i first started IVing, i was apprehensive about it too, but then i got sucked in, and now i love the whole IV heroin ritual.

Some people can chip, myself included, some can't. It looks like youre one of those that can't. So go for C before it is too late.

Shooting up is a very dark and attractive ritual, don't be ensared by it dude.

And right now im talking with the supreme hypocrosy of being high off my ass from a great hit of IV heroin.

Option C, the dope's not going anywhere; just chill on a blunt or something like lacey said and don't get sucked into the blackhole of intravenous use.
 
LivingOnValium said:
Haha!

This is so easy to overcome you will not believe it untill you've gone way too far that road...
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Maybe its easy for you but when it comes down to a choice between getting sick and getting high thats a very hard choice to make. my very good friend is a junkie and the way hes life revolves around heroin is scary.
 
PLus you really appreciate it less when you do it all the time. if you do that shit like once a week or a few times a monh it still feels special. But when you do it all the time, instead of feelin like you got somethin extra when you do have it, you just feel like you are lackin somethin when you aint.
 
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