When does MXE + Alcohol start getting dangerous?

[coolcucumber]

If I were to have 3 units, then go a bit crazy with MXE (dosing over 100mg), would that be risky? Or does it only start to get dangerous with higher amounts of alcohol?

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Getting drunk on MXE isn't gonna kill you or anything (more toxic than either alone though), just stay hydrated. Be prepared for confusion, anterograde amnesia, and a more chaotic high. I was fond of the combo myself, but many find it subjectively undesirable.

 

[cerebral_cortex]

i can't say for sure - but i wouldn't think so. for the past several months - i've had a Sunday routine where i start bumping small amounts of mxe (say 10-15mg lines) around late morning/noon... repeat approx. every hour or so until about 6:00pm. (so about 70-100mg roughly throughout day) And most of those days i've consumed anywhere from a half-to a full bottle of red wine, usually starting drinking around 3:00 or 4:00pm.

of course, tolerance would be a factor - if you've never done mxe before, or haven't done alot of it in the past - then maybe your plan might not be a good idea.

 

[coolcucumber]

Getting drunk on MXE isn't gonna kill you or anything (more toxic than either alone though), just stay hydrated. Be prepared for confusion, anterograde amnesia, and a more chaotic high. I was fond of the combo myself, but many find it subjectively undesirable.

Thanks for the response, but I was asking after reading the following thread "[Methoxetamine Subthread] Combinations"

where it says..

Unsafe / (Potentially) Dangerous - due to potentiation or negative interaction

DXM
MDAI / MDMA / the more serotonergic the stimulant the worse it may be?? Still a big question mark though.
Tramadol (NMDA receptor activity)
Methylphenidate
Alcohol (breathing depression in high doses, dangerous)
Opiates (potentiation of CNS / breathing depression)

I was wondering if it meant, in higher doses of mxe on any dose of alcohol, or any dose of alcohol on any dose of mxe, or both high doses of each?

 

[coolcucumber]

i can't say for sure - but i wouldn't think so. for the past several months - i've had a Sunday routine where i start bumping small amounts of mxe (say 10-15mg lines) around late morning/noon... repeat approx. every hour or so until about 6:00pm. (so about 70-100mg roughly throughout day) And most of those days i've consumed anywhere from a half-to a full bottle of red wine, usually starting drinking around 3:00 or 4:00pm.

of course, tolerance would be a factor - if you've never done mxe before, or haven't done alot of it in the past - then maybe your plan might not be a good idea.

Thanks for the report. I have quite a high tolerance. But just haven't really done much mixing with alcohol before. Seems like I'll probably be safe after 3 units.

 

[J.Wallace]

I use to have an extremely high tolerance to MXE. 200+mg would be snorted at once to acheive an M-hole effect. I found the two times I mixed with ANY amount of alcohol, no matter how little, would result in dysphoria and confusion beyond that of the normal M-hole.

One time I dosed around 100mg at 1pm. Drank almost a beer and half around 7pm, and became totally dysphoric and lost my motor skills. I blacked out literally on top of a few friends who were sitting down near me.

I've read of people mixing the two and being okay, however I do not advise mixing the two whatsoever. I'd even go so far as to say it's not even worth experimenting with mixing these two compounds.

 

[oar9fi]

I usually end my sessions with a beer, or rarely 2. That said, I don't like the effects of alcohol at all. I just find that a nice dark stout or porter tastes wonderful after a night of MXE I think it helps me get from dissociated to sleep mode as long as I take off the headphones & do something to occupy my mind a bit.

As for when it might get dangerous, that would most likely be when you get up to piss & trip over the cat/dog & crack your head on the bathroom counter (or something along those lines) Be safe.

 

[Achten]

If I dose my MXE higher than 15mg I won't drink with it.

But 5-10mg makes me able to drink more, it seems. Kind of like a amphetamine-similar push.

I used to drink LOTS (as in 5-7days/week) and now I only drink once or twice a month. If I don't do MXE I feel buzzed after 2glasses. With the small dose MXE I can keep going.

 

[SONN]

I think it gets dangerous when you forget to breathe.

 

[coolcucumber]

Thanks for all the responses! All very interesting

Last night, after my beer, I did a few bumps (20-30mg), was very pleasant. Then I did a big about 5 hours after my beer, and took 100mg of Diphenhydramine so that I could sleep.

You guys were right, motor skills were definitely more impaired. Really struggled to walk to the toilet lol. But yeah, when I was in bed, the MXE + DPH made me trip absolute fucking balls! I've experienced this in the past when taking DPH to sleep, but last night was the most intense and enjoyable I've experienced of the two. After having M-holed an awful lot before, it's definitely lost its magic if I do MXE on its own. Adding DPH though really does sky-rocket it to a whole new level of tripping. One of my favourite things are the auditory hallucinations! Can be very weird, but very very cool too.

I certainly wouldn't recommend drinking immediately before mixing MXE and DPH. And I certainly wouldn't go higher than 100mg of DPH. To play it safe, I'll always wait at least 4 hours after a maximum of 1 beer before taking DPH.