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When does drug use actually improve quality of life
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Thank you kind sir
verso
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Adderall is only for the weekends, huh? But you're a smart guy, so surely you've thought about how productive you can be if only you did take it every day. Right? And maybe your course load right now isn't so overwhelming, but once you've got more things to do in a day than there's time for... I'm willing to bet that you begin popping that shit every day. Oh, man, and that's when the real fun begins...
I've done a lot of drugs, man. I do dope pretty regularly, almost every day, and I've been using opiates for almost two years now. Believe me when I tell you that nothing has grabbed me in the same way that Adderall did. You become so used to running at full-speed all the time that once you kick the Adderall, whether you taper or cold turkey, you feel so ridiculously unmotivated, incapable, and stupid. It took me months and months and months to begin feeling right again, and I'm still not sure that I'm 100% The depression is un-fucking-real and that's probably why I started to do dope so often. It's a slippery slope, my man...
Addyman
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Well, I am a stimulant guy
highhooked
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Haha coltdan you love the mxe afterglow.
And Verso thats deepshit man and a good simple description of how adderall can fuck you. I feel like the worst symptom of any drug abuse is unmotivation. Unmotivation can lead to so many other problems like depression and anxiety. Im glad you overcame your adderall addiction though it seems like it had you by the balls. May i ask how long you were abusing adderall?
And Verso thats deepshit man and a good simple description of how adderall can fuck you. I feel like the worst symptom of any drug abuse is unmotivation. Unmotivation can lead to so many other problems like depression and anxiety. Im glad you overcame your adderall addiction though it seems like it had you by the balls. May i ask how long you were abusing adderall?
blue valentine
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Once you are breaking down your dosage, counting and "saving" pills like that, then you are addicted in my opinion. And if you need them for "stressful" situations that's another sign. You may feel that drugs aren't a problem for you, and maybe they aren't yet, but you are doing an awful lot of explaining and rationalizing. The positives might outweigh the negatives according to you, but please think about the fact that the negatives will more than likely start piling up more and more.
Addyman
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Om nom nom
I do more rationalizing on Adderall, cuz I can't stand boredom
I do more rationalizing on Adderall, cuz I can't stand boredom
Tomer
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I disagree with a lot of statements being made in this thread. There is NO doubt that stimulant use can be a very slippery slope if you don't manage it carefully. But, there are plenty of people who use it responsibly (such as myself) and take breaks (at least the weekend) to recuperate. Eating right, exercise, etc. are all apart of the regimen. I think it's too easy to automatically label someone an addict or a potential addict based on the drug they indulge in.
Sure, I'm not as motivated without the use of amphetamine but that doesn't mean I can't be without it. Does that mean I'm an addict? I think the definition is becoming a bit cluttered. Isn't the definition of an addict, someone who wakes up and can't function without said drug? Not being condescending...I am truly interested in hearing thoughts on this. I am a bit confused by how we are defining ones lifestyle.
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Sure, I'm not as motivated without the use of amphetamine but that doesn't mean I can't be without it. Does that mean I'm an addict? I think the definition is becoming a bit cluttered. Isn't the definition of an addict, someone who wakes up and can't function without said drug? Not being condescending...I am truly interested in hearing thoughts on this. I am a bit confused by how we are defining ones lifestyle.
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^ I don't think that everyone was saying that this was specific to stimulant use. It just happened to be the drug most mentioned in this thread due to the OP bringing it up.
I would say the same thing about any drug, really. For example, one may feel like opiate use is improving their life because it is making them more social. However, over time they may find that they need opiates in order to be social, which may result in them being even more anti-social without them, more so than before they initially started taking it.
I would say the same thing about any drug, really. For example, one may feel like opiate use is improving their life because it is making them more social. However, over time they may find that they need opiates in order to be social, which may result in them being even more anti-social without them, more so than before they initially started taking it.
Midazle
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I totally agree. That said its important to remember there are people who slave over education just to earn the right to be able to determine just when that is (Physicians, Surgeons, Nurse Practitioners, Physicians Assistants, Psychologists, etc.).
Very solid post. I am not an addict but I do take allot of prescribed medication for legitimate purposes, I did not take medication for a long time despite physicians telling me to reconsider which I eventually did. My goal is to not make my life about these drugs, in fact I really want to forget about them and that's why I am even switching my academic focus from Biology to other things for the time being as the school I go to is just chalked full of drugs and people who are all about drugs. Its scary because 95% of the kids here do drugs and you wouldn't even know until they start talking about it all the time...I'm going to get away from here thank God but understand the concept (to the OP). My mom takes Vicodin for chronic pain and she always talks about medical stuff, Its gotta to the point where I just say "I don't care" as coldly as possible because I don't want to get sucked down anymore yet she bashes methadone for any indication...Right now I am trying to get on OxyContin or MS Contin so I do not have to take pills around the clock which will keep me from having to think about these substances...right now I'm thinking when I gotta take my next percocet and its not even fun anymore. I should mention though I am an athlete and a healthy person in general I just got unlucky with genetics and a family history of bad backs.
Watch it. I take Adderall and Oxycodone every morning so I can function well..I have legitimate prescriptions but that does not mean I don't question if I need them...I mean how am I any different than the guy who does a similar speed ball except with methamphetamine and heroin so he can function albeit at a lower level or whatever? I have days where I may not take these products and I do this to see how psychologically dependent I am...I have been going a few days without the Adderall with only tiny amounts here and there so I will consider discontinuing it soon and see how it goes, you have to be willing to be able to do that if you genuinely think you do NOT need them anymore. As for my oxycodone, that's a bit more complicated...I feel dirty for taking oxycodone and my doctors office's staff makes sure of that apparent from there dirty looks and the only reason the pharmacist doesn't give me dirty looks anymore is because I know him. However, I have had severe chronic pain for the past 2 years from two documented illnesses that I won't list but I'll give you this; its like living with cancer pain minus the release of death. I went 2 years taking non-narcotics everyday with minimal relief. Finally I was put on Vicodin and Percocet and it helps the pain so I can function better...I won't lie I love the euphoria from it, love nodding off to sleep, but those are just side effects and secondary pluses and NOT the main goal of why I take it. If I were to double up on oxy everyday my tolerance would sore and I would be short on meds for half of the month and unlike people without chronic pain I would be in some pretty bad hurt. One BAD thing about oxy is sometimes I'm in school and the euphoria is strong and I start to nodd off a little, yes its annoying because its distracting but I would be hard pressed to not take the pills because I wouldn't be able to sit in a chair for more than 5 minutes without writhing in pain. Also even writing this I feel slightly fuzzy in thinking hence why I keep clicking the edit button...it sucks but theres a trade off. Also with time as obviously known by most a normal dose of opiates will not be as effective....I can not use 5mg of hydrocodone for pain anymore it simply does not work and to even get a buzz off of it I would probably have to take 3x that, I am not going to do that I have too many other things to worry about. ALWAYS look at your reasons for "doing drugs" which I put in quotes because now a days that can mean illicit or licit which has become to blurred its not even funny.
Last edit I promise lol...watch "Methadonia": http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5888306773553221655 . I think you'll learn allot from it and how to stay on the right track drug free or not...
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Addyman
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I have a legit adderall script
I don't get euphoria from therapeutic doses, so occasionally (yeah, OCCASIONALLY) I'll take more
I only get my Adderall 5 days a week instead of 7, so I usually don't get the recreational chance to save doses... School days I almost always take it, lol.
I don't get euphoria from therapeutic doses, so occasionally (yeah, OCCASIONALLY) I'll take more
I only get my Adderall 5 days a week instead of 7, so I usually don't get the recreational chance to save doses... School days I almost always take it, lol.
Midazle
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I know people do it, but I don't understand the whole high off Adderall concept. I think ive just been on it for a while. If I were to take a shit ton of Adderall (and I could, I literally have 2 bottles of instant release 10's I didn't need) I would end up just cleaning my room, finishing my homework, the curing cancer while listening to hardcore techno with a pulse of like 120 while constantly checking my doorway from paranoia... Lol. Well to each there own. I will say I have taken maybe 5-10mg extra to stay awake but even then that was what was prescribed to me for if I woke up early and the XR wore off late in the day. Idk what else to say just be smart. I'm pretty smart too so I understand dosing better than most docs, at least for my self so I might titrate up if needed then tell my doctor shortly after.
Addyman
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charlie clean
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What drug improves your 'quality of life'? Herb makes you think kinder. Heroin causes you to have no worries - except running out of heroin. Stims boost your confidence and make you love everyone while the comedown offers just the opposite, which makes you appreciate the changeability of perception. Psychedelics give you a glimpse into a bigger beyond. All can enhance your 'quality of life' if used correctly.
The drugs that do you the least good are the pills doctors are fond of handing out and alcohol, which is legal. Says something about our social culture, perhaps.
The drugs that do you the least good are the pills doctors are fond of handing out and alcohol, which is legal. Says something about our social culture, perhaps.
Addyman
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quote for fucking truth.
I have been using amphetamines (pharms mostly-dexedrine for the most part, just recently finally acquired some methamphetamine and smoked a few times over a 3 day period last week (got it wednesday, was high/not sober till saturday at 6amish-was smoking the whole time other than one time i snorted it...) and i've been called an addict by various people on here, and while i think the label somewhat fits, i never use every day pretty much, i just get high 1-3 days a week, weekdays only and cant seem to stop doing THAT but most days recently i've gone without amphetamines completely honestly and i can function well enough that i dont crave the shit just to function....
IMO i'm not addicted, or i am but almost in like a steady mild stage....i have no intention/want to quit, but if i had to, i honestly could at least for a while, but it would suck.
for the record i'm cutting back to once a week gettin high on amphs period and i'm gonna try to buy glass just once a month max (not for me, for someone else..)....and not more than a gram or two tops when i buy glass, cause i cant see myself being able to stash meth away/save it for later anyway (or at least the one time i did get some, i failed miserably) so i figure as long as i dont get enough for more than a few days being high then i'll be good since its a pain to get anyway and i dont have the money, i'd buy a gram or half a gram, probably a gram, have a nice few day meth binge, then in a few weeks when i have cash to blow and have it available to me again i'll repeat..
i'm not sober due to amphetamiens right now so who knows.
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The only time I have noticed a drug improve something in my life, is when I play ping pong on cocaine.
TheLostBoys
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I know several people that self medicate with vicodin for depression & have for years. It beats prozac & what not any day of the week from what they have told me.