whats your favourite dmt or similar compound?

[coombesy]

i will be trying n,n dmt very soon for the first time and want to know what other forms of DMT or similar compounds you lot are liking

has anyone tried any DMT combinations like 2 types of DMT in the same hit?

 

[Qnick]

lolz, thats not how it works.

There's only one type of DMT, there are other things that are analogs, where molecular additions have been made, but they are entirely different than dmt for the most part.

The only analog that would be arguably close in effects is 5-meo-dmt, which has been traditionally combined with n,n-DMT from plant sources for thousands of years.

 

[coombesy]

ok so what makes them an analog?
i have a fair amount of experience with mushrooms and lsd and have brewed ahauasca and drank it a couple times but i am quite new to dmt and other psycadelics
to pose a new question then what is your favourte dmt analog or similar triptaminealso 5-meo-dalt/dipt etc?

 

[Ismene]

DMT is DMT - there's not really anything like it.

There's a whole load of tryptamines like DPT amd 5meo-DMT but comparing them to DMT is like comparing apples and oranges. Each has it's own characteristics.

 

[coombesy]

i obviously have a lot to learn
that is kind of my point though i want to know the differences and peoples opinions on these tryptamines
can anyone help me or am i just going to get boy'd off for being a noob?

 

[Solipsis]

Let's get a couple of things straight:

- There is only one DMT, that is what is N,N-DMT is called for short. It is a pure compound, not a mixture, and if the quality is pure, everyone has exactly the same stuff.
- There are DMT analogues, of which the most similar in duration and action are 5-MeO-DMT and 5-Fluoro-DMT. They have simple substitutions meaning they are of the most basic variations of DMT. All of them are pure chemical compounds but DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are sometimes found as a purified plant extract that often contains a few other alkaloids as well. So DMT itself is one substance, but it certainly can be mixed.
Though 5-MeO-DMT is truthfully just as simple a substitution as 4-HO-DMT which is psilocin from mushrooms. Only that works for a lot longer than DMT's 10-15 mins for the peak.
- Besides the closest family relatives of N,N-DMT I just mentioned there are quite a few others that are family in the tryptamine class as well. Look at the table here

Variations on DMT that have chemical groups attached to the molecule, substituted analogues, are: 4-HO-DMT, 4-AcO-DMT (and 4-PrO-DMT) for the 4-position.
5-MeO-DMT, 5-HO-DMT (5-AcO-DMT......?) for the 5-position.
DET, DPT, DiPT, etc for different N-substitutions.
normal N,N-DMT is dimethyltryptamine meaning there is 2 (di) methylgroups both on the N (N,N).
But if you put ethyl, propyl or isopropyl chains on the N and vary them you get a lot of combinations.

Now imagine all variations on variations, like 4-HO on a DET gives 4-HO-DET. There are many combinations of substitutions.

Basics on tryptamines: 5-MeO- tryptamines tend to have an energetic bodyload and I have to agree to what I have heard others say, that they can be alien and reptilian somehow.
4-HO- tryptamines are not that stable to shelve, but I think they are very nice, a clear feeling with a powerful capacity for psychedelia. I'm getting into this 4-HO class!!!, today with 4-HO-DiPT, and 4-HO-MET and 4-HO-MiPT also coming up soon...
I love DMT but find DPT to be a little too rough around the edges but nevertheless a wonderfully profound feeling.

Is this going to be about tryptamines in general or do you wanna go a particular way with it?

 

[coombesy]

thankyou solipsis that is exactly what i was after :D

i have been reading a lot lately about DMT and the experiences people have describing hyperspace, geometrical colours and patterns and all knowing beings and entities etc, i feel like i have learnt a lot from all my psycadelic experiences and am intrested to see what hyperspace has to teach me
are a lot of these substituted analoges easy to come by in the uk?

 

[Solipsis]

We don't discuss sources / how to get this kind of stuff on Bluelight, but I think the UK has an analogue law that probably covers more than a few of these tryptamines. So legality may be a bigger issue for you than say for me here across the canal.

 

[coombesy]

i was not in any way asking for sources was just askin if people over here do get it but no worries and what you say about the laws over here is what i expect, i will just have to be happy with extracting my dmt from what is legal here :D