What's your favorite cycle?

Usa51

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New here just saying what's up. Vast knowledge in steroids and drugging haha! Just wanted to see what everyone's favorite cycle is to run or whatever.

I'm currently running Test E, EQ and anadrol.

Figured starting a thread be a good way to meet new people and learn something new;everyday.

Thanks
 
What I'm putting together for this summer will probably be my favorite.
300 test e
400 tren e
Debating on mast e or combo mast p tren a
Desoxytestosterone cyp at a gram
M1t oxime with dimethabold for a kicker
Methyl tren in the middle
Winstrol to polish off
I've staggered the long esters so they build up at different rates to essentially use it to push through plateaus along with methylated compounds pulsed I and out.
Gonna be a nice dry bulk and a test run with a bunch of compounds to see how I react to them.
 
Wow sounds legit.

I took test tren e cycle last summer biggest n leanest I ever was. Got hit with the sides though. Night sweats and insomina too but well worth it.

Have you ever ran EQ? First time and im 4 weeks in. I hope to get super vascular and lean as fuck. I notice but appetite has me hungrier then ever. But I know it truly doesn't kick in til 8 weeks or so.

Let me know how winny goes I was thinkin ending cycle with tht or var
 
Eq was a dick killer for me unfortunately. Well I just didn't desire sex at all. Mild anxiety issues at around a gram but nothing I couldn't manage. Might run it again in the future. Though so far Desoxytestosterone is proving superior to eq at a lower dose as I'm currently running it at 400/week. I'd liken it to a hybrid of primo and eq.
 
What were you running eq at? Ive been super horny Prob cause of test too
 
Was running it at about 1 - 1.1g a week. 600/week was fine but I was too fat at the time to notice much from it. I may try it summer of '16
 
Was running it at about 1 - 1.1g a week. 600/week was fine but I was too fat at the time to notice much from it. I may try it summer of '16

F***ing hell Serotonin, I've managed on much less than that....

I remember back in the day, when our gear came from pharmacys, we managed on about 1/3 of what you younger guys are taking now.. We weren't weak or small either..lol

Is the gear underdosed today, as I don't seem to get the growth or the kick I did 20+ years ago..??

I see all these young kids taking grams of gear with physiques obtainable as a natty... (you must have seen em on GH15)...!!!

I think that speaks volumes about the average gym rat, I don't think most people will never be huge however much gear they take, if you don't have the genetics to grow you won't do shite... Most people don't..

I also believe its not about the amount of gear you take, its about being able to handle the side effects, without making yourself ill, in the short or longer term.....

Probably hGH + IGF-1 could make a difference, but legit stuff is almost unobtainable for the average bodybuilder... Or too expensive..!!

How many Monsters do you see in any gym..? Not a big cunt, but a Monster..? One, if you are lucky, maybe a few in the average large city, if you are lucky...

I'm trying to think how many we have in the whole of New Zealand, 2 come to mind..!! TWO...!!!!

Am I being cynical, or are most people better off on less than 1g/week (closer to 500mg) putting up with a slightly smaller physique than if they were on 2-3g/week, but with less side effects, no need for ancillaries, and leading a much healthier and longer life...??

I don't know..!! Your thoughts pls gentlemen..!!
 
I agree my friend. It was a waste which is just part of my learning process. Too much gear people use without a physique that demands it. After that blast I was still gaining on 250 test and 600 eq. I just wanted to see "what woukd happen" per se. I never mind being a Guinea pig for high doses or new compounds. Figure someone has to do it. It's more a waste of money lol.
 
I don't think people are getting underdosed product/bunk with the exception of growth hormone. We have different morphological builds and some are suited for being lean or others for high lean body mass, some of us are skinny fat. It's almost a foregone conclusion that some people will respond better to taking hormones. That said, I do not think the extremes are a good means of summarizing this. I believe some will see good gains and some will see great gains. Most people will see gains though. The difference in gains will not be much different in normal cases, under comparable circumstances between two people. The people who exceed 250 lbs on stage will be normal looking people without drugs. If the drugs are the operative difference maker, how would it be any different from me being in their position and their being in my position. I don't take grams of gear and insulin and growth hormone. Who is to say I would not look every bit as silly as top bodybuilder if I took what they took?

I believe there would be some differences between the response to drugs, but the response will occur in both cases. The difference is like a degree, from factors which regulate the function of hormones. I don't have a clue what the reasons are, aside from the way people react differently to taking medications (some endorse it, others say it's garbage). Complex. One can only speculate the reason in the way of fabricating the results to write a diagram about puzzle pieces.

Resistance to major problems associated with heavy, frequent, long term usage of drugs. This means a lot of people are dropping out before they're known bodybuilders and it's for health issues. In fact, a lot of people are exculpated from consideration because they would not take the drugs as health is on top. Moreover, some have the skills and wherewithal not to put fuel on the fire, so they are the ones who can actually function well mentally, and they are more resilient to the physical side effects.

Lastly, supplement companies thrive on deceptive advertising practices. They merchandize wishful thinking, but they need proven models of success to add strength to their claims. Often times, they will self-select promising young people and sponsor them to continue achieving results. The coaches and gurus surround pro bodybuilders. They have no want for training know how or ambition to keep up the great physique. The cultivation begins and people notice results far later, so they cannot make the right link.
 
One cannot make it in professional bodybuilding if they are concerned about their health essentially. It's almost a game of "how long can you burn the candle at both ends". I'm willing to take some risk in this sport, of course taking the precautions that I can. I could probably get super fucking cut on meth , dnp, and stupid high tren doses. But I'd rather save my health and do it slower and with decent discipline. This thing is a marathon especially for us younger guys. We still have decades to build bodies, families, education, careers, etc. To live a life worth living. Not be shredded for five years and die from liver, kidney, heart, etc issues.
 
I don't think people are getting underdosed product/bunk with the exception of growth hormone. .

I posted a link to a drug testing web-site some time ago, clearly showing many compounds to be under-dosed, bunk, or a different compound or mix of compounds to what stated on label...
I have had many blood test that have shown compounds to be under or in a few cases over-dosed... It happens more often than you think..
 
One cannot make it in professional bodybuilding if they are concerned about their health essentially. It's almost a game of "how long can you burn the candle at both ends". I'm willing to take some risk in this sport, of course taking the precautions that I can. I could probably get super fucking cut on meth , dnp, and stupid high tren doses. But I'd rather save my health and do it slower and with decent discipline. This thing is a marathon especially for us younger guys. We still have decades to build bodies, families, education, careers, etc. To live a life worth living. Not be shredded for five years and die from liver, kidney, heart, etc issues.

Agreed, I remember GH15 stating this a while back.. But most will never make it as a Pro, in fact hardly any at all.. They don't have the mental discipline, or the genetics..
Its laughable to see young kids taking huge doses they believe the Pro's take, thinking they will look like them, when the sad reality is they don't stand a hope in hell...!!!

Plus copying the ancillaries' Pro's take, thinking they need them on 500mg of test/week.... :)
 
Only ancillary drugs I use are cialis and the occasional ai/serm. Have yet to use a dopamine agonist and feel it's mostly unnecessary unless you're bodybuilding with Parkinson disease lol or have prolactinoma I believe it's called?

Edit: low dose daily cialis significantly improved my blood pressure.
 
F***ing hell Serotonin, I've managed on much less than that....

I remember back in the day, when our gear came from pharmacys, we managed on about 1/3 of what you younger guys are taking now.. We weren't weak or small either..lol

Is the gear underdosed today, as I don't seem to get the growth or the kick I did 20+ years ago..??

I see all these young kids taking grams of gear with physiques obtainable as a natty... (you must have seen em on GH15)...!!!

I think that speaks volumes about the average gym rat, I don't think most people will never be huge however much gear they take, if you don't have the genetics to grow you won't do shite... Most people don't..

I also believe its not about the amount of gear you take, its about being able to handle the side effects, without making yourself ill, in the short or longer term.....

Probably hGH + IGF-1 could make a difference, but legit stuff is almost unobtainable for the average bodybuilder... Or too expensive..!!

How many Monsters do you see in any gym..? Not a big cunt, but a Monster..? One, if you are lucky, maybe a few in the average large city, if you are lucky...

I'm trying to think how many we have in the whole of New Zealand, 2 come to mind..!! TWO...!!!!

Am I being cynical, or are most people better off on less than 1g/week (closer to 500mg) putting up with a slightly smaller physique than if they were on 2-3g/week, but with less side effects, no need for ancillaries, and leading a much healthier and longer life...??

I don't know..!! Your thoughts pls gentlemen..!!

At least I'm not the only one sounding like a grumpy old man now lol ;-)

I agree absolutely. I don't think most guys are even prepared to *try* and see if they can do just as well (or nearly as well) on far smaller doses. They start off high and keep going up and up, cycle to cycle.

I found it quite revealing personally when I dropped my doses into what would be considered laughably small amounts - 150mg-250mg - and didn't really notice much difference in the speed of gains at all, or condition, or vascularity.

The only way I'd contemplate going to 1g+ doses nowadays would be if I'm trying to break through into unchartered territory (say over 130-135kg). But I certainly don't need a lot to get back to my old peak at all. I really doubt anyone else does either...
 
Favorite cycle is hard to say because we all have different goals at different times. But, seeing as how I no longer want to grow anymore, this is basically how I ran my last cycles. From time to time, I will run a similar cycle to help feed all the new virgin muscle cells that the HGH I take has produced. They are new muscle cells and giving them a boost to grow packs on a little mass, but it hardens me up for the most part. I have been using HGH for over 8 years and because of my back conditions and injuries...I have NO plan of ever coming off. And yes, my doctor knows this and he looks out for me in ways most doctors would not. I'm lucky in this case.

Well...I've reached a point in my life where I really don't plan on using much more AAS. I will however continue to use those awesome GreyTops I'm using (HGH). I hit my goal that I have been trying to reach for a better part of my life.....having said that, I've run many many cycles, and towards the last few years, I began to understand and figure out what works best for ME. Now, before I go any further...you have to understand that we all have different goals and different compounds work differently for different people. So what worked for me may not work the same way for the next guy.

I started weight training in high school. All natural. Peanut butter and milk were my "sups". I'd go thru a gallon and a jar a day. When I got a little older, I started using AAS....my senior year in high school to be exact. I was really into wrestling, and was looking for every edge I could get. Moving on...I started using AAS on and off for several years. Long story short, I maxed out at 250lbs. I ran several more cycles, but I really couldn't add more LBM without adding more body fat. So, that's when I started to use GH and slin (along with IGF). The only way I broke 250lbs was with GH. Without GH, I could not have passed that mark. So I did a lot of homework and research. I probably spent a solid 6 months of research before I started because I was warned and aware of all the risks and dangers involved (especially if you use insulin). There was a time I wanted to go pro....but life got in the way and that never happened.

Leaving out my GH and slin protocols, I was looking a for a way to continue to add solid LBM without putting on mass, and than losing a lot of it at the end of my program. And like I said, I would basically use deca to fill up on, and tren to harden out. Well, during the first 6 weeks.....my cycle looked like what one might call a "bulk" cycle. And the last 6 weeks would look more like what many call a "cutting" cycle. IMHO, you can cut and bulk with just about any AAS. What happens in the kitchen and in the gym dictates what your ultimate results are.

Using that 12 cycle as an example, I would run proviron for the entire duration of my cycle (minus PCT). I used to run 50mg ED waaaay back in the day, but I slowly learned that higher doses of proviron where FAR FAR more effective for ME. My proviron dose at one point was 150mg ED. During the 12 week cycle, I would also run test at a dose no lower than 1g EW....sometimes 1200, sometimes 1500. My sweet spot turned out to be 1200mg EW. During the first 6 weeks, I was using deca along with NPP....the NPP was being used until the deca started to take full effect. BUT...I would actually run the NPP for the full 6 weeks along with regular deca. I also used test prop until the test e started to work. But like the NPP....I ran it for the full 6 weeks, so I was actually using more than 1200mg EW. My orals. Anadrol is king, but I also like dbol as well. I was running 100mg of anadrol along with 50mg of dbol for the first 6 weeks as well. The deca/npp, anadrol, dbol all packed on mass (some water) and are generally compounds used for "bulking". HCG and caber were being used as well throughout the entire cycle. I also used arimadex during my cycle, because I understood how vital it was to have SOME estrogen in the body when running a cycle. Many think estro is the devil, but the truth is you do need to have some for your body to run properly. SOOOO....that is why a suicide AI is not used DURING a program...only for PCT. I was taking 3g of vitamin C ED which also acts like a natural AI. When PCT came, I switched AIs and used aromasin.

So when week 6 was done, it was time to drop the NPP, drol, deca, dbol, and test prop. I did forget to mention that I would take 100mg of TNE about 2hrs. before my workouts (raising my total test dose). The TNE gave me more energy and helped me put more plates on the bar, giving me a better overall workout. So when I dropped those compounds, I switched over to tren ace and anavar. Mind you...I was still using proviron and I was also using GH and slin. I was pinning ED and found no need to use tren enan....besides, I think that shit is the devil. I know fools who took too much and had to suck it up and just live with the sides until they slowly faded away. They were living in complete hell. And since I was pinning ED like I said, there was no reason to take tren enan.

So that's basically how I ran most of my last cycles. This method proved to give me the best results. And by best I mean I kept most of my gains, I was ROCK hard (not in a sexual sense), and I would continue to grow with the help of my GH and slin. I also recovered VERY easy. PCT was a breeze only having to use aromasin and clomid. NOTHING else. Sure, I was taking milk thistle and Liv52....but that's a given. Not sure what more I can say. That's the way I bounced the ball. My goals were achieved, I got the body I always wanted, I was healthy, and before I was married....I was getting more tail than I knew what to do with. I just recently got divorced so I'm going to have to get back into that game again. But that's another story. If I missed anything, ask away.




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All these posts on "What are you running" "favorite cycle" and even dieting, but I can never find threads about actual workouts. Someone should start a thread about "your most successful workout regimen for bulking/cutting/recomp etc." with things like

-days on/off per week
-cardio type/length
-number of sets x reps per muscle group
-number of different exercises per muscle group

Which all obviously depend on your goals, but I think it could be more productive for those considering AAS, and even experienced users.
Just a thought...
 
Always 5 days weight training and two days dedicated cardio. When bulking I do that, cutting I do cardio everyday. Incline treadmill til I burn 1000 calories. Bulking push to move more weight or more reps. Cutting, just stimulate muscles to keep from losing them. I guess I'm just simple lol. Add drugs and take out drugs as needed: fat burners, stimulants, oral steroids, fast esters, etc.
 
All these posts on "What are you running" "favorite cycle" and even dieting, but I can never find threads about actual workouts. Someone should start a thread about "your most successful workout regimen for bulking/cutting/recomp etc." with things like

-days on/off per week
-cardio type/length
-number of sets x reps per muscle group
-number of different exercises per muscle group

Which all obviously depend on your goals, but I think it could be more productive for those considering AAS, and even experienced users.
Just a thought...

I think you just volunteered yourself! ;-)
 
Couldn't agree more. We don't have to train half as hard now-a-days to get same results... Advances in gear... Equipment and availability etc etc.
 
Basically after doing a fair amount of research and understanding that the general 99% of genuine gym gear heads always say inject all the way... I have to confess that after a couple of years training and spending 3/4months plateauing with size and strength I decided to get an 'oral stack' 10mg dianabol 10mg winstrol 10mg test per tab. I just simply took I tablet a day for 30 days n tbh I didn't change my diet and carried on drinking at the weekend! Basically I put on a stone (12lb muscle 2lb fat) but after a month of not taking anything I haven't lost anything - strength or weight... And drinking maybe 20-30 pints over the weekend the whole time surely if oral steroids were that bad if be in a bad way by now???
 
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