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Whats your fave study drug (upper)? / Question bout upper

clandenstine said:
bah what ever,
sniveling toads.


u cant tell me after staying up 144 hours straight doing meth and smoking bud your gonna retain shit... not to mention the mass amounts of beer that get consumed while in college...

be realistic...


u cant retain what you learn this way...
and as far as ritalin, and concerta, these are used in very low doses... and its not like theres a line to the nurses station where adhd kids go snort some glass... they take a pill, that works over time, and its not amphetamines, like the ones one would use in college... or am i stupid...

adderal and ritalin were junior highschool high's...

the kids IN SCHOOL prescribed this stuff. is on a controlled dose.

i said crystal meth...
not these drugs.

bah what it matter, sniveling toad.

So, basically, what you're saying is that there's no middle ground between studying sober and studying cracked out on meth, weed, and booze? That's rediculous.. there's plenty of room for moderation.

Adderall IS made up of amphetamines: Dextro-amphetamine and racemic-amphetamine. Dexedrine is pure dextroamphetamine, Desoxyn is pharma methamphetamine... (god how many times have i retyped this info).

People can be , and are, successful in moderating these on a short term basis, even without the guidelines of a controlled prescription. Not everyone has this sort of restraint, however.

truth be told, after rereading your post, i'm not even sure what you were getting at.

Believe me, 20mg of adderall or dexedrine will not have any negative effects on retaining information. 8(
 
I'd just like to point out to the sniveling toad guy that I tweek for school, and my retention of what I study is on point. My GPA is currently a 3.9. So maybe YOU can't study on meth, but there are a lot of us out here who most certainly CAN.

Sucks to be you. %)

ps - I don't drink beer, either. Well, not on a regular basis.
 
you can cram alot with ritalin, i think 60-80mg is a nice dose for a few hours of good studying
 
Not really a stimulant per se, but piracetam + caffeine + lecithin + choline + hydergine certainly works well
selegiline (deprenyl) also shows promise
 
^ You might also check out Creatine in addition to your smart-drug regime. Supposedly combination of Creatine and Piracetam gives strong mental effects (at least that's what I read at rec.drugs.smart).

As for the topic question: my fav study drug/upper is of course amphetamine sulphate or Adderall. Caffeine,ephedrine,nicotine are very poor stimulants when it comes to me.
Selegiline at 5-10mg/day dose - made me too anxious/jittery, so I've stopped experimenting with it.
 
For test preparations, long overdue stays in office, de cluttering your entire garage or alphahetizing all of your kitchen utensils in separate boxes, nothing beats SMOKING a good amount of crystal meth and then following it up with a nice downer choice, such as: 20mgs of valium, 10 mgs of rivotril or nitrazepam. Based from experience, the speedball that results from this combination is awesome and helps me to focus at the task at hand. Just dont overdo it or u might end up geeking out or being too scattered u might end up with a lot of unfinished piles of work .Ive taken piracetam before, and i would classify it as under the loads of "vitamins, minerals and brain supplements" i take everyday (they give me a slightly noticeable"buzz" to the brain but then again i take supplements together with hard drugs so i dont know if it would help alone) but it can never hurt. You can try: gingko biloba, korean or syberian ginseng, and this drink called BRANDS ESSENCE OF CHICKEN (from China) which does wonders for my short term mind clarity.
 
Anybody try Crystal meth orally in smaller dosages for studying and getting work done?
 
i've got stacks of assignments due and so i've decided to give the meth studying thing a try. just as a one off thing though. so far, not so good... i've spent the last 3 hours talking to my little sister about life. now i'm going to hit the books before bluelight becomes too appeaing. wish me luck!
bring on the CLARITY
 
when i have a big study session ahead of me, i usually get loaded on vicodin and drink coffe, im required to take adderall every day, so my tolerance is too high for it to really do anything.

p.s. i dont find adderall addictive at all, its not euphoric enough to be very desirable
 
Chummp I have heard of people that use crystal meth to study. Actually it's a very prevalent drug among med students. If you generally have no problem moderating your use of drugs than it should work well for you. However, if you're anything like me and have an addictive personality than you will probably end up doing the whole supply and be twitching during your exams. J/k. Depending on how you function after not sleeping, you might still be able to do well on the test if you do up the whole stash provided you don't stay up for more than a day or two. Lemme know how it goes. I've been thinking about picking up some of that for finals.
 
i've had a lot of success with concertas(2 at a time, semi-crushed up to bypass the time-release a little), but that usually gets me strung out after about 2 days. Right now i'm experimenting with 54mg concertas and 20mg ritalins. If those aren't available, ephedrine usually does the trick for a shorter duration.
 
d-(+)-N-methyl-amphetamine ('meth') is the most dangerous stimulant in existence. Please, be careful with it--the effective dose is between 2.5 and 7.5 mg, beyond that, it starts to become quite neurotoxic. Methylphenidate (ritalin) is far safer, as are pemoline (and presumably) 4-methylaminorex. If you must have a relatively unsubstituted amphetamine that should have the same 'kick' as methylamphetamine and far fewer peripheral effects than ephedrine, I would suggest cathinone (CAT) or methylcathinone (MCAT). The name MCAT comes primarily from the compound's name; however, it is also a pun--the compound was frequently used by college students (possibly studying for the MCAT) and medical students during clinical rotations before it was 'disappeared' into Schedule I. MCAT is supposedly twice as strong as d-amphetamine, so the active dose should be 5-10 mg. It is also perhaps the easiest amphetamine-like compound to make.
 
Chummp said:
Anybody try Crystal meth orally in smaller dosages for studying and getting work done?

that's how you do meth for studying. cap a small amount 10-20mg. don't be smoking or bumping it to study off meth cuz that only gets you high!
 
I randomly got some adderal the other day, had a final paper that was plaguing me and figured it couldn't hurt .. I have virtually no experience with any stimulants/uppers ..

I took half of a pill (15mg), after a while I noticed very subtle effects ... I'd be able to hammer out some sentences quickly but still get distracted just as soon. I ended up taking the other half, and got my paper pretty much finished right as it kicked in. I then proceeded to be jacked up pretty much all day ... massive euphoria, tweakin my ass off, etc. I still have residual effects (twichy/speedy etc) now, 10 hours after I took the other half!

So if you're gonna dose, do it real low - and try to get shit done ASAP ;)
 
the tolerance thing to adderall is scaring me. i hope it doesn't happen at therapeutic doses. at least, i hope it takes a while.

the problem with cns stimulants like amphetamines is that even though it keeps you awake, your performance suffers the same way it should from sleep deprivation. provigil, on the other hand, doesn't have this effect. any experience with that, anyone? has it helped anyone with adhd? my md was gonna prescribe that to me, but i read a study that said it didn't work for adhd and i was in a hurry to find something that worked after failed trials with ritalin, strattera, and wellbutrin.
 
^ ^
It certainly does happen at theraputic doses, although far more slowly if you manage to space them out rather than take them every day... taking them daily even if you don't feel you need them will leave you with a tolerance rapidly.

It is reasonable to say that *most* people will find adderall more effective than ritalin.

Additionally, the comparison of amphetamines vs. provigil is simply inaccurate. There is enough anecdotal evidence to clearly indicate that people are not generally experiencing equivalent degradation of performance when on amphetamines vs. sobriety.

Oh, and personally, while I do think Provigil is a breakthrough drug and be extremely worthwhile for both studying AND also curbing amphetamine withdrawl, I certainly do not agree that it possesses anywhere near the anti-fatigue properties of amphetamine. Far, far from it.
 
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Favorite upper for studying? I would probably have to say adderall. It's a nice lift, gets me focused and it doesn't get me intensely geeked out. Meth insufflated or orally is more suitable for studying purposes due to its gradual onset and length of duration. If I smoke or bang meth I get too caught up in the rush, and tend to do everything except for study. It's really hard to focus on homework when I'm compulsively hitting the spoofer, and am a scatterbrained mess.
 
for study, 50mg phenylpiperazine and pot, maybe a bit of dxm, like less than 200mg. i made a perfect 100 in human anatomy, college, 2nd term and a 93 first term. i basically sucked at college, despite being bright, i never made grades like that. and frankly, i spent 1/3 of the time studying as the other students.

the phenylpip and dxm combo, for some reason a)makes reading textbooks VERY engrossing and b)causes everything you read to go into long term memory. there's been some blurring, after a year, but when i get started, it ALL comes back.

just so y'all know, regardless of the press, phenylpip is pretty okay. it's not meth, it's not bzp. weird, but true - not even kinda bzplike. it has a seratonergic whang to it.
 
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