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Whats worse junkies or meth heads

One Thousand Words said:
Neither are as annoying as reformed drug addicts.
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SirTophamHat said:
Blue light users
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LOL.

But yeah, really, I don't think there's even a comparison here. Compare how many functional opiate addicts there are to how many functional meth addicts. Given sufficient funds, safe practices, and keeping away from LE, most junkies can continue more or less indefinitely without serious physiological or social problems, and even at the worst, at least the drug class, if not the lifestyle, is more or less physiologically benign and has absolutely no association with psychosis. Meth addicts, however (and I don't mean just anyone who uses meth, I mean people who get really into it) seem to more or less inevitably become complete degenerates.
 
SKL said:
Meth addicts, however (and I don't mean just anyone who uses meth, I mean people who get really into it) seem to more or less inevitably become complete degenerates.
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Yeah meth seems to degrade your mental state pretty fast if abused constantly. My next door neighbor a while back (who was a meth dealer and general degenerate) had an associate who was a pretty scary dude...he was a big guy, muscular, despite the fact that he shot/smoked meth pretty much every day, and he was a stone cold psychopath. I'm not sure if the meth was completely responsible for it but I'm sure it didn't help. I've never met an opiate user who I've been intimidated by like that, mostly because I've never met an opiate addict who's mental thought processes were completely out of whack and unstable (well, except perhaps when it comes to their own addiction).

That guy (my neighbor) had such a terrible place, too. There were literally piles of trash in the kitchen which were rotting and stunk the whole house up. The kitchen sink was clogged and it was full of scummy, disgusting water. Random useless shit strewn all over the living room floor. There were holes in the walls and the front door couldn't shut all the way because it had been kicked in at least once by some affiliates of a biker gang who this dealer owed thousands of dollars to. It was basically a crack house. I've been to some junkie houses which were pretty bad but nothing on the level of that place. (Which I always thought was weird because aren't tweakers supposed to be meticulous cleaners?)

Arguably there is more of a social stigma to methamphetamine than there is to opiates too, at least here in the USA. There is an impression that it's impossible to engage in recreational meth use, which is untrue of course...personally I get into the habit of buying a 50 bag on Friday night, staying spun all weekend long, and then sobering up and hitting the books come Monday. But it's not something I'd talk about with anyone else. I'd even be comfortable talking about using H with my friends but not meth.
 
meth heads win hands down for me because they never go away, they linger around as zombies or calculated con artists/sociopaths. Its like in a doco a junkie in sydney said theres two types of speed skaters:ones that go in a straight line, and ones that float around.
 
Barbiturates - even the worst bag-head looks down that is the mess that a barb-fiend is. They always need the most care - they nod more than a 20-minute fentanyl addict. Seen a lot more women than men, calling welfare is a horrible experience BUT you have to call it as you see it....

Thankfully, 99% in the past.

If I can help, I will,
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I am a reformed addict. Opiates for 15 years, ugh when I say it it sounds like such a long time.

I have known my share of meth heads, and opiate addicts. Don't write opiate addicts off as not doing sociopathic things to get their high....they just don't have the energy or motivation when they are dopesick.

I have stolen so many things...i've been to jail for stealing, been on probation for stealing. I have ripped people off, I have lied oh so many times that my words have become meaningless nonsense falling on deaf ears.

It has been nearly a year since I used, and I still have serious trust issues with everyone around me, and sometimes my mom cries because she remembers what it was like to worry that I was dying the times she found me OD'd and had to get me rushed to the hospital.

I did meth once. I bought a bag. I tried it, didnt like the high, went back to the place the next day, put the bag down on the table and said, I'm going to turn my back, I want this gone before I turn around again. It was gone. I then proceded to go shoot 200mg of morphine in my car and nod out in the hot sun inside a car that was all closed up. One of those spun people came out and saved me cos I sure as hell was not getting out of there under my own power.
 
Meth-addicts are "worse people" by a long fucking margin. It's not even close - and I've been a meth-addict and a heroin addict (currently only use heroin, kicked the meth years ago).

Meth is fucked, the only things I miss about meth are: The sex and The Rush (IV). I cannot stand being around people under the influence of meth. They are so fucking annoying - at their best, at their worst they're dangerous and psychotic.
 
Methheads are worse easily here in Australia. You get the criminal heroine users but they're often using everything. The people that use JUST heroin and weed keep to themselves really.

I like to say I just use H but because of the prevalence of the shit here(meth) it's hard not getting it given to you. I wish I could just throw it out but the compulsive nature of the stuff keeps you doing it.
 
smokedup said:
meth heads win hands down for me because they never go away, they linger around as zombies or calculated con artists/sociopaths. Its like in a doco a junkie in sydney said theres two types of speed skaters:ones that go in a straight line, and ones that float around.
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So true. I was always a figure skater I.e going round in circles as opposed to a speed skater(someone who can use and have their lives together)and I think it's that way for the majority of people. At least in the end but it happened to me very quickly.

BTW we don't use these terms in real life but they're good analogies.

And I've used meth for longer but used much more heroin/opioids and longer stints and the 9 month benzo and meth stint I did was what really fucked me up in every way imaginable. And that was after about 10 years of semi-controlled use. Now I have no willpower with it and hate it with every part of my being where as I love heroin with 90% of my being lol
 
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meth heads take it for sure. they do shit ike suck off ten dudes and get a load on they face and then smoke up more rock. junkies, we just pas the fuck out with a cigarette in our hand and burn down a house. aint shit compared to motherfuckers smoking rock for days on end, just look at threads in here aout it to prove my fuckin point. aint never seen no shadow peope on dope, just fell assleep against a wall.
 
rokkinrollaa6 said:
meth heads take it for sure. they do shit ike suck off ten dudes and get a load on they face and then smoke up more rock. junkies, we just pas the fuck out with a cigarette in our hand and burn down a house. aint shit compared to motherfuckers smoking rock for days on end, just look at threads in here aout it to prove my fuckin point. aint never seen no shadow peope on dope, just fell assleep against a wall.
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Hmmm so thats why meth heads have no teeth.
 
read the "whats the craziest thing you've done on meth" thread, where a tranny discusses getting fucked by 5-6 guys it doesnt know at a party, then stands up and a litre of cum sploshes out of it's hole.

worst thing i did sexually was fall asleep with the meat tube inside and my girl was like "oh my god are you asleep? what the fuck???" worst thing a heroin addict does is plow through a bag of chips or chain smoke or something. yeah heroin addicts are self absorbed, whiny bitches, but fucking tweakers are nutcase sexual degenerates.
 
Hahaha, "nutcase sexual degenerates". I don't judge the sexuality of consenting adults but it's so true, lol
 
Tweakers I've found often have good senses of humor, though, I've found. They may be terrible people (some of them, anyway) but a lot of them are pretty funny/entertaining.

Opiate junkies on the other hand are almost always boring people, IME. Besides the good folks here at BL, of course ;)
 
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