Thanks for the replies guys, laika as far as what i read most it would have to be the dark side cause i have been struggling with opiate addiction for four years. I actualy just put a post up there with my story. i go there to read other peoples struggles and success stories to keep me motivated. I havent been motivated enough to stop but it has kept my desire to stop intact. i have been really down on myself lately for not being able to quite my 150-200mg/day oxy or hydro habbit so i guess i have just come mostly for support so i thank u both for the warm welcom