vortex30
Bluelighter
I think people have covered most of them, shall we move onto simple Hydrocarbons that are psychoactive? Ethanol (CH3-CH2-OH) is pretty simple. My answer was gonna be N2O but that's been used quite a lot.
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What's the simplest psychoactive molecule?
vortex30
Bluelighter
I think people have covered most of them, shall we move onto simple Hydrocarbons that are psychoactive? Ethanol (CH3-CH2-OH) is pretty simple. My answer was gonna be N2O but that's been used quite a lot.
rangrz
Bluelighter
KBr or NaBr
two atom molecule, physoactive (sedative/tranquilzer)...albeit by being prodrug for the Br ion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_bromide#Medical_and_Veterinary
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
By this logic, you'll have to admit Lithium salts to this club.
ebola
MurphyClox
Bluelighter
I think all simple alcohols up to maybe C5 or C6 are psychoactive...including MeOH!
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
^ I think it's implicit that the psychoactivity doesn't kill you or leave you blind
Jamshyd
Bluelight Crew
I'm actually very interested in trying Propanol. Apparently it is less toxic than ethanol with no hangover...etc.
LuxEtVeritas
Bluelighter
really??!! ^
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/P6390.htm
what is the correlative dosing (ie., ~1oz (30ml) EtOH is a 'dose')?
MurphyClox
Bluelighter
Propanol (both n- and iso-) are said to cause a terrible hang-over. Be careful!
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
^ Isopropanol made me feel like shite warmed up (using it as a solvent for one of the naphthoylindole cannabinoids) - can't say anything about propanol though.
n-Butanol would be funny - make you smell of rancid butter for a hangover
LuxEtVeritas
Bluelighter
that is what i thought...
^
if it did not it would be all too commonly seen already as well
probably a dirtier high as well to begin with
Isopropanol is about 2x as potent as ethanol as a CNS depressant. It does not cause life-threatening side effects but it's metabolized to acetone, which has CNS depressant effects in it's own right (and will make you smell like fruit)
rangrz
Bluelighter
ebola? said:
By this logic, you'll have to admit Lithium salts to this club.
ebola
yeah, but lithium salts are all more complex, at least the commerical ones like lithium citrate, sulfate, asparate, ect...they are alot more then 2 atoms, aint they?
but I would pesonally admit KBr NaBr and any 2 atom lithium salt to the club, they are indeed physoactive molecules...prodrugs do count.
I'm sure no one will argue that Codeine, Carisporidol, Diacetylmorphine, Oxycodone, ect are not real drugs, just because they are prodrugs for morphine/meprobamate/morphine again/oxymorphone.
So IMHO the simple salts of bromine and lithium would be the simplest physoactive drugs, albeit with bromides having a faster adn more obvious physoactive effect then lithium.
johanneschimpo
Bluelighter
^ Lets make it interesting then..... lithium bromide.
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Two atoms, two shitty "drugs" with nasty effects for the price of one. We have a winner!!!
negrogesic
Bluelight Crew
Chlorobutanol and 2-methyl-2-butanol are relatively simple, and look far more appealing than n-butanol...
Sulfonomethane looks like some nasty stuff...
I forgot about 1,4-BD...
QuasiStoned
Bluelighter
wungchow said:
Isopropanol is about 2x as potent as ethanol as a CNS depressant. It does not cause life-threatening side effects but it's metabolized to acetone, which has CNS depressant effects in it's own right (and will make you smell like fruit)
Isn't acetone somewhat toxic though? I dunno if I'd want to fuck around with that...
nuke
Bluelighter
wungchow said:
Isopropanol is about 2x as potent as ethanol as a CNS depressant. It does not cause life-threatening side effects but it's metabolized to acetone, which has CNS depressant effects in it's own right (and will make you smell like fruit)
You've tried it? I'm kind of curious as to how it compares to alcohol. It doesn't appear to be that much more dangerous in terms of toxicology (acetone itself isn't that potent of a toxin).
MattPsy
Bluelighter
I've tried it too (IPA), you need about half as much as you do ethanol, but it tastes pretty damn horrible (mind you I think the same of ethanol, though it's not as bad).
It feels inferior, less euphoria, more un-coordination, toxic feeling, breath constantly smells of acetone which is not a good look, I don't dig the solvent-huffer aroma (ether is far worse for this
that was kinda funny though, and a lot more fun, IPA was just yuck and not all that fun).
Riemann Zeta
Bluelighter
^Based upon how it smells and tastes in minute (accidental) amounts, I assume that quantitative amounts would taste like the inside of a monkey's asshole. The whole thing sounds like a vomit-a-thon waiting to happen (I think iPrOH is known to induce severe projectile vomiting).