what's the BA of plugging meth/coke/h?

[onlyone3232]

I got a syringe given to me after i got my windom teeth taken out wihout a needle so i could give an instance spray of water to clear out any food stuck in the operated parts of my mouth. the syringe has a thin tupe that u can push the plunger down from the container part which would be perfect for pulgging. If the little tupe part isnt long enough i could probably fit the container up there if i must. it can easily hold 10mL of water which is good.
the tube part if only about 4cm long. is that long enough?
i can always just break the needle off an old needle & use that. but ive only got old ones. Should it be used with a new syringe? im guess it posses the same risks as using it to IV as it would grow bacteria over time. but ive only got old syringes. they've only been used once but they're been sitting around for a while. So yeah do u think they would have built up dangerous amounts of bacteria?

Ive IVed before but ive always got someone else to do it for me & think i might stuff it up by missing a vein or something plus i dont have access to fresh needles.

if i do acquire some meth coke or h & i dont have someone else to help me IV it im curious about plugging.
id put the small tube part up as far as i can.

im guessing u have to lay down with ya legs up in the air so ya arse is facing the ceiling instead of sitting up or standing up because of gravity. is that correct?

what is the BAs of meth coke & h? are they all stronger plugged than snorted or smoked??

i probably wont attempt this & just snort if i dont have someone to help cuz i dont know how to make the lightbulb thing to smoke & i dont think i could manage to hold the foil right if im gunna do it that way.

Ive also heard that plugging codeine works. anyone know how much stronger it is. I'll have to check the oral BA of codeine but with the syringe i have id only have to plug like 5 times cuz im usually left with 75mL of water or so
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/481802-Plugging-codeine-CWE
there's a thread there about plugging codeine. i wonder how much stronger it is. I find if I dose a good 600mg of codeine i get a really pleasant effect & its perfect besides that fact that it simply isnt strong enough

...just curious. so again what's the bioavailabilitys?

the syringe im talking about its available at pharmacys. is there a website i can upload a pic of it too so i can show everyone what it looks like?

 

[effie]

4cm is long enough. You just need to get past the anus really so the drugs are in the rectum. New syringe is nowhere near as important as for IVing, but you should still try to use new ones as a general rule if possible. You could potentially cause a small tear and introduce infection into your bloodstream although this is unlikely, especially if you use a narrow syringe and some lube!

Plugging is a good alternative to IV use, much less risky

A lot of people lie down, but you don't have to stick your arse in the air :D on your back or side is fine. I don't think this is necessary myself, anyone with normal anal tone should be able to stop any leakage even when sat or stood up, but it is up to you. There is a plugging megathread here which describes the process

I don't believe plugged codeine has a much higher bioavailability (if at all) than oral, although onset will be quicker. Bypassing first-pass metabolism by plugging won't be beneficial for codeine, as it is a pro-drug (needs to be metabolised to exert it's effects) so you want it to hit the liver as fast as possible. It still will if you plug it, of course, but with oral it will be shunted directly there before it goes anywhere else. Plugging that much water, even if you do it in stages, probably isn't wise either - much higher risk of leaking and it not being absorbed properly, plus it could be uncomfy. You could evaporate some water off if you really did want to try it.

There is a bioavailability megathread here although I just scanned through it and it doesn't have the figures you are after. I would be wary of cocaine as is a vasoconstrictor, which could cause damage, and it has a poor oral bioavailability - not sure about rectal.. methamp is also a vasoconstrictor but to a lesser degree than cocaine. Heroin does work rectally but reports vary on it's effectiveness - try it and see?

You can google lightbulb vapes if you wanted to make one, and I can describe chasing off foil (better for heroin than methamp) if you want but it is tricky to master on your own and not ideal unless you have heroin freebase. I would say you are best off snorting coke, and same with meth if you aren't going to vape. If you have heroin salt (not the freebase found in the UK) then snorting is probably going to be best too.

 

[Steps]

Plugging, you typically want NO MORE than 5ml of water, I'd reccomend 3ml, followed by laying on your side for 30mins

The bioavailability of plugged methamphetamine is 99%

The Route of Administration bioavailabilities of methamphetamine highest to lowest
Intravenous (100% ) -> Rectal (99% ) -> Smoked (90.3% ) -> Nasal (79% ) -> Oral (62.7% )

The Route of Administration onset times from fastest to slowest for methamphetamine
Intravenous -> Smoking (vaporizing) -> Rectal -> Nasal -> Oral



I believe cocaine's rectal bioavailability is 99%, though

 

[kokaino]

Plugging, you typically want NO MORE than 5ml of water, I'd reccomend 3ml, followed by laying on your side for 30mins

The bioavailability of plugged methamphetamine is 99%

The Route of Administration bioavailabilities of methamphetamine highest to lowest
Intravenous (100% ) -> Rectal (99% ) -> Smoked (90.3% ) -> Nasal (79% ) -> Oral (62.7% )

The Route of Administration onset times from fastest to slowest for methamphetamine
Intravenous -> Smoking (vaporizing) -> Rectal -> Nasal -> Oral



I believe cocaine's rectal bioavailability is 99%, though

Actually, smoking causes the quickest onset. Yes, quicker than IV. It's because when you smoke meth or crack or whatever else you're smoking, it goes straight into your arterial blood vessels and straight to the brain.

 

[Steps]

You're right.
I just feel I need to put IV first because Smoking takes 2 minutes to peak

 

[onlyone3232]

the BAs of coke & meth are moderately high when snorting if i dont have my mate to help me IV. So id only really consider plugging h as I assume it has a low BA for snorting like it does with its other BAs except for IV ofcourse.

The BA thread doesnt say the BA of snorting h or plugging h either. Does anyone know the BAs of these routes? (i'll just snort the H if it's like 75% or something but if it's less than that id probably try plugging it, especially if it's like 95% or something!)

 

[jasper kent]

Plugging, you typically want NO MORE than 5ml of water, I'd reccomend 3ml, followed by laying on your side for 30mins

The bioavailability of plugged methamphetamine is 99%

The Route of Administration bioavailabilities of methamphetamine highest to lowest
Intravenous (100% ) -> Rectal (99% ) -> Smoked (90.3% ) -> Nasal (79% ) -> Oral (62.7% )

The Route of Administration onset times from fastest to slowest for methamphetamine
Intravenous -> Smoking (vaporizing) -> Rectal -> Nasal -> Oral



I believe cocaine's rectal bioavailability is 99%, though

I don't doubt these figures, but I'm wondering where they came from. Cite?

 

[tricomb]

Most of those can be found straight on wikipedia.

 

[Tryptamino]

@OP, have you IV'd all off the said substances? If so than simply take this as your askwer: forget IVing and snorting, and simply use plugging as your main ROA for all of the said substances.

if not, then in the following I will discuss the pros and cons of rectal admin:

for meth and cocaine, I'm pretty sure they are both 99%, (meth for sure, cocaine is unsure but highly likely) and heroin I'm guessing is also 99% because IIRC morphine is 99% rectally.

IMO I would simply use rectally exclusively as your main ROA instead of IV (like I previously stated), it's much healthier and less likely to cause problems, snorting is also an OK ROA but more damaging and less effective. Many former IV users use rectal administration as a safer alternative (myself included) and have found that it helped tremendously in terms of harm reduction, addiction, and side effects. With cocaine, rectal use is something I wouldn't really reccomend, as it's fiendy like IV and freebase use. the only real difference it makes is that if you're used to IV use, you might just be unsatisfied, and have even more of an impulse to redose. The only time I would recommend substituting rectal cocaine for IV cocaine is if you (or anybody else) is considering IVing or vaporizing a speedball, in which I would strongly recommend you use rectal administration for both the heroin and the cocaine.

You can google lightbulb vapes if you wanted to make one, and I can describe chasing off foil (better for heroin than methamp) if you want but it is tricky to master on your own and not ideal unless you have heroin freebase. I would say you are best off snorting coke, and same with meth if you aren't going to vape. If you have heroin salt (not the freebase found in the UK) then snorting is probably going to be best too.

@OP, do NOT make a lightbulb vaporizer for meth. vaporizing will make your comedowns awful, and make you redose constantly, and IMO has more side effecst than insufflating. I rarely use that ROA, and when I do it's only because I'm mid-binge and for what ever reason other ROAs are ineffective and I usually do not use it more than once or twice, seperating each bowl with a smoother ROA (snorting usually). If you want a rush-y onset, plugging is the best way to go.

I agree that snorting would be the best for cocaine, heroin, and meth, but if OP has an oral syringe, and has already tried IV (and has therefore already been exposed to the rush) I would recommend saving both their nose and their product and using the rectal ROA.

with meth specifically, I can say that it is my favorite ROA, in fact I'm rushing off of quite a bit off rectal methamp as I type this, and it makes me wonder why I ever smoked or snorted the shit. It's super long lasting as well, and doesn't have much of a crash, especially compared to vaporizing, which is possibly the worse ROA, even worse than IV in some aspects.

 

[Bruce Haze]

I would think that at lowest 90% and at highest as much as 99% for all three that you ask about.