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What's in these pills? (Red and Orange/Yellow Apples)

ombladon

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I've only done E in my life 3 times, out of 4 before this out of which i know for a fact the first time was with pure MDA, and the second time with MDMA but i REALLY overdid it and didn't have such a good time if you know what I mean....vomitting on anything derived from amphetamines is like hell....followed by shaking, perspiration and than cold sweats.

This time I got ahold of a brand of E that a bud had done but he definatley isn't experienced with GOOD or at least REAL ecstasy. The imprint on the pills are both resembling either a middle finger or an apple, the color and mabye the ingredients being different.
Now in my limited experience I've done both oral and snorted. And I KNOW for a fact that REAL MDMA/MDA really, really burns your nose and that the drip is really bitter.
Now, I once snorted 3 blue thunderbolt or lightning and nothing at all, not even a burn!

I've done this bud's pills 2 times. The first I took one orange and one red. However not having done any stimulants in the past year and half or two, much less E, only having a cup of coffee once in a while and two cups would keep me up really late till morning.
My first test for the pills was to split them in half, and 'test' them by the burn from snorting. I started with the red, by eating half and snorting the other half...and started feeling a little up and euphoric. Then I did the second, the orange/yellow one in the same way. I stayed up and had some nice introspective thoughts HOWEVER it was definatley NOT MDMA/MDA and/or if it was any in it/them it might have been VERY little. However I got plenty of energy....absolutley no jaw clenching whatsoever which is a SURE indication that is isn't MDMA/MDA even though both pills gave an equally intense burn on the nose and a bitter drip.
2 days later I got 2 yellow/orange pills to see if it was because of one pill or both. I popped one and snorted the second after 1 hr swallowing the first. Not much effects, of course I got the energy and a little bit of euphoria (this time even less so). I ended up getting another red pill to try it and see if it would boost it...it did but it wasn't MDMA/MDA either.

What I did get which are 'characteristic' of MDMA/MDA was (much more so the second time but the first time as well) was a lot, a lot of teeth clenching (teeth not griding, but just litterally biting down like they ask you to do at the dentist a couple of times to get your teeth pictures). As well oral and tactical tics/fixations became harder to control; for example orally I was clearing my throath at least every hour to half hour, and as for tactical I was constantly playing by putting say the middlefinger's nail underneath the thumb nail and grind the nail against the skin, on both hands......constantly that the day after they still hurt. Absolutley no 'crash' except for the fact that after the first time and going down, I did feel a bit depressed and a little drained from moving around a lot, but the day after I felt rather a pleasent afterglow. The second time I did them, I was ready for what was in stock so I drank (beer) throughout the whole night no weed at all instead. Still the same tics/fixations like chewing down air (not exactly, just pressure on the teeth, esp the 4 corner teeth), however I haven't experience a crash at all the second time (ie; right now is the day after) and as a matter of fact I feel that when I look around at nature and what's outside it's like I'm free and see it differently.

Now I have NEVER done methamphetamine, I've done dextro-amphetamine and amphetamine but not methamphetamine. I know they put that in E pills a lot, and I was thinking that even a high dose of amphetamines/dextro-amphetamines will give you euphoria but also ALOT of agitation/anxiety. Plus MDMA/MDA have high tolerence rates meaning, when I did my first MDA hit, I got another one the second day right after and the effects were at least by half. Another thing on MDMA/MDA you can easily close your eyes, matter of fact it's even a 'characteristic' with it's eye wiggles. On these you could NOT close your eyes for more than a few couple of seconds as if impossible. I also know that methamphetamine is much longer lasting than amphetamines and dexedrine. I'm afraid what I did was methamphetamine with either very little or NO MDMA/MDA at all. And by the way methamphetamine is not something I would even want to mess with, much less try.

A couple more useful tips:
- Eaten it seemed to kick in regular MDMA/MDA time (around 30 minutes-40 minutes mark) and after that IT JUST ISN'T LIKE AN MDMA high or MDA high.
- Palms were very sweaty!

BTW, I have important reason to ask this question, not simply bitching about a shitty buzz but I have reason to be concerned as I get tested at a clinic I go to once a week and I know for a fact they do NOT test for mushrooms, amphetamine and dextro-amphetamine, as well as neither MDMA nor MDA. Now would the same rule apply to methamphetamine? Or is the meth group what makes it turn into the 'methamphtamine' that they can test for?!
 
From your description of the experience, it seems pretty likely that the pills contained some kind of stimulant. However, it's hard to say what it was. Your description is consistent with ephedrine, amphetamine, methamphetamine, or piperazines (BZP, TFMPP, mCPP). I'm pretty sure amphetamine and methamphetamine are indistinguishable by commonly used piss tests. Thus, you should be OK in that regard. I'm going to copy this thread to pillreports just in case these pressies have been encountered, and hopefully tested, by anybody else.
 
^^^ +1

It's impossible for anyone to tell you what was in your pills, as there are millions of pills out on the market at any given time around the world. Did you check www.pillreports.com for these pills in your area?

Since you say you have to get a urine test each week, why not order a testing kit to make sure you don't ingest anything with amp/meth/ect? You'll be glad you did. :D
 
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