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What's Everyone's Problem with Tobacco in Spliffs?

I smoke, so why wouldn't I add tobacco? Makes my J last longer, adds a different flavour and makes it smoother to smoke.

But when I started smoking weed, way before I started smoking cigs, I'd always roll pure weed joints. But, as I mixed with other stoners, they told me I was, "wasting bud". Then when I smoked a 50/50 joint, I realised I was. No need to put all that bud in when you can save it for later when your high goes past the peak and you need a little boost.
 
I roll my spliffs with around 20-40% tobacco - 20 if I wanna savour the herb, 40 if I'm drinking and I know I'm gonna torch through them like they were cigarettes. I don't smoke cigarettes on their own at all. I "toast" the tobacco I use in joints until it turns black to get rid of some of the nicotine - this is only of crucial importance when smoking from a bong (where untoasted tobacco makes me feel sick), but the tobacco taste doesn't come on as strong, nor do you feel its effects as much. When not smoking joints the amount of tobacco is usually around 10-20%, just to keep me from coughing (as lots of herb has the tendency to make me do).

There's a few reasons I do it, but mainly it's to balance smoking a big fat doobie without having to stuff it full of precious ganja. I enjoy the act of smoking and I want my joints to last, and I also don't want as much herb going to waste for when the spliff is sitting in my hand or the ashtray for a few seconds. Furthermore, a small amount of tobacco makes the weed less harsh on the throat, I've found.
 
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Tobacco is disgusting and I don't smoke it on its own, so I certainly waste good weed that way. I suppose if you have mostly stems and seeds anyways then you would be doing that to get something out of the low grade weed or whatever - but if that were the case I would just get better weed.
 
i dislike the way tobacco (even a little bit) makes me feel. i dislike the way it tastes and the way it smells. i spend a lot of money so that i can smoke pot that tastes and smells wonderful. mixing tobacco with it, to me, would be like putting sand on a steak.
 
Also; for those of you non-smokers, try using a herbal blend, or if you can't get that; some tea (just rip open a tea bag and pour it over your bud) in place of the tobacco. Saves your bud in the same way and makes the smoke smoother; just not as harmful. You just don't get the nicotine buzz, but that seems like something some of you would prefer.
It also really helps your J burn, as sometimes I find if your weed isn't ground fine enough, it can be a bitch to keep lit.
 
Where I live spliff refers specifically to a joint with tobacco in it. We just call them joints if they're only weed, which is how they're usually smoked here. I smoke spliffs sometimes, they burn really well and I like tobacco (although I'm not a daily smoker, I smoke like 2 or 3 per week), but I find them harsh enough to keep me from holding in the hits as long as I would with a joint and they make my lungs hurt more then joints. Certainly nothing wrong with them, I just find them a bit too harsh to want to usually smoke them.

It's interesting to me that a lot of people find tobacco to make a joint smoother, because I find the opposite to be true, especially after holding in each hit for 5+ seconds.

Also, when I do roll a spliff I make it probably roughly 1/4-1/3 tobacco, but usually closer to 1/4. About 1/2-1 in. off a cigarette. I enjoy how the tastes mix too.
 
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I prefer not to put tobacco in, but my friends have before. When they did, it was probably somewhere around 80% weed 20% tobacco. In my opinion, it makes it harsher. The nicotine bonus just isn't worth it in my opinion. And I do smoke cigarettes, but only on occasion, or when I'm drunk.
 
The nicotine adds a different effect to the high, you get the buzz from the tobacco right away and then it slides into the high from the weed over time. I enjoy this occasionally, I don't only smoke spliffs but do like them from time to time.

However, if I have had a lot to drink the tobacco can put me over the edge whereas just a regular joint (in moderation) would be ok. But that said, in the right proportions, weed and alcohol and tobacco mix just fine, but too much of any of the three together makes me sick.

When offering to share with other people I generally try to ask before hand if they mind a spliff unles I have them prerolled. I totally understand that some people don't like tobacco, so I don't force it upon anyone. To each their own.

I also only smoke tobacco in a spliff; I don't smoke cigarettes.
 
I would never roll with tobacco, why ruin a relatively harmless substance with a super addictive and dangerous one?
 
So, do you roll your spliffs with tobacco?

Oh hell no. Blunt, Zig-Zag, or glass, it's pure bud.

If yes, why do you do so, and how much tobacco do you use?

I smoke one cig after a smoke session, and another at some point. This used to mean a pack every 2 days, but now it's a pack every 3 weeks and cigars when I feel like sittin in the cigar shop.

If no, why not? Have you tried it before?

Yes, I just prefer one after the other. The cig is much more enjoyable alone, and the cannabis is as well. I don't like mixing the two, and I've tried it with nearly every type of filler you could think of and probably 10 more.

Also, do you smoke cigarettes?

Read above. 1 pack every 3 weeks, generally. There are some weeks I will smoke 3-4 cigs a day.



Bottom line: I prefer one after the other, why not wait? Makes one all the sweeter. If you think the bud smokes slower with tabaccy, it's true, but a well rolled blunt or zig-zag will not go out or fuck up if rolled well - without tobacco. I don't "spliff" them, unless that is my only choice.... which was years ago? Hash is another story.
 
I always put abit of baccy in my spliffs and just about everyone around here who also smokes ciggs and alot that don't smoke ciggs put abit of baccy in their joint. I only put a little tiny pinch in the joint so it burns better. I smoke ciggs and i don't know why anyone would get bitchy about someone putting baccy in their own spliff cause that makes no sense at all. it's sort of like raggin on me for putting coke in with my morphine shot sometimes 8) . Well not exactly but you get the point.
 
In germany everyone smokes spliffs, so I kinda got that from the start but i also tried out smoking just weed and it just didnt do it for me. With tobacco in the mix it just burns better and evener, im a heavy smoker so nicotine isnt really an issue for me and I also noticed that the part where it gets nasty (like a centimeter from the tip) isnt THAT nasty with tobacco. I also mostly smoke in big groups so tobacco is kind of a must. But I always try to have more weed than tobacco in my spliffs, like 60/40. Tobacco also makes rolling a whole lot easier...
 
I used to hate on spliffs. Like why put that discusting plant with such an amazing plant. But last night at a party a girl snuck one onto me and i enjoyed it. It helped me not get 100% wasted
 
Artificial Emotion said:
There was a recent study that failed to link cancer to cannabis smoking, which was the opposite of the researchers' expectations. People smoke far less cannabis in weight than the average tobacco smoker would do. Also, there are generally no additives used in cannabis whereas tobacco companies add a plethora of toxic chemicals to tobacco (I'm really surprised none of the main tobacco companies has come along with a legitimate organic tobacco as I'm sure there's a nice market for it because of this very reason).

Adding tobacco to spliffs is sort of a cultural thing. In certain countries like the UK it's relatively common, as people pass on their habits to others, making it widespread. However, in other countries it's frequently unheard of and just isn't the done thing to do. I think it depends on how you smoke it. In a bong or pipe there's no need, however in a spliff it can help it burn. Unless you for some reason have a preference to smoking spliffs, there's really no need and it's a bit lazy. You may as well make the effort to go out and buy or even make a bong or other smoking device so that there really is no need for using tobacco to help it burn. Either that or use some other herb to bulk it out and make it easier to combust. I've heard there are some quite pleasant herbs to mix with it.

Some people smoke tobacco with it because they're already addicted to tobacco anyway, so they reason that they may as well smoke tobacco with their weed as they would smoke it anyway.

Personally I think it's sacrilege. Smoke pure. You know it's the best way. Cannabis is such a wonderful herb that god has given to us, so there's no need to contaminate it with the spawn of the devil that tobacco is.
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Actually I believe there is a natural tobacco product.

https://www.nascigs.com/Login/tabid/157/Default.aspx?returnurl=/default.aspx

But thats besides the point, I dont mix it because it ruins the taste of good cannabis and I dont enjoy the poisons and niccotine in cigs.
 
It can add nicely to the buzz, but I refrain b/c I don't need to add any more addictions to my repertoire!
 
whats better with some espresso & pelligrino?

60/40
american spirit tobacco
trainwreck
purpleKushXtrainWreck scissor/finger hash
2 american spirit flax seed papers
piece of rolling paper pack for 'tip'.


 
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