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what's considered a high opiate addiction?

Le Junk

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I usually take 4-5 (10/325's), maybe sometimes 6 a day, but over the last two days have literally been on a freakin' binge. I took probably 9-10 yesterday, got three hours sleep after cleaning my car at 4 AM, and then woke up to a breakfast of two out of the shoot at 7 AM. I've now taken a total of probably 7 today. I've gotta tell ya', this is just like really good cola, but I never, ever imagined myself binging on opiates for God's sake!

Has anyone else ever done this before, and is this really part of a healthy diet? I have managed to eat and take my vitamins throughout, so I'm really not to worried.

Just curious what got up my ass?

Le Junk
 
Your creeping into addiction slowly.........Soon it will be 20 a day..... It happened to me and LOTS of others........ It may not happen to you if you keep it once in a while use, But every day your going to get hooked even at 40 - 60 mg's a day.

PS- Are you using Percocet or Vicodin? It didnt state the Drug
 
Opiates and bingeing go hand in hand. But personally i think a lot of people will tell you that 100 mg of hydro isn't that high, but it is definately an addiction...
 
MethaContin said:
Your creeping into addiction slowly.........Soon it will be 20 a day..... It happened to me and LOTS of others........ It may not happen to you if you keep it once in a while use, But every day your going to get hooked even at 40 - 60 mg's a day.

PS- Are you using Percocet or Vicodin? It didnt state the Drug

I have both, but my personal choice for the euphoria reached while using is the hydros (Vicodin). I have the white 367's the blue Watsons, the yellow whatever in the fuck is on there and of course, the 512 and 54/543 percs. Probably a recipe for disaster. Keep in mind that I really only use 40-50 mg.s a day. Now, of course I never thought I'd be there either, but I used hydros to get off my cocaine addiction. Now I'm beginning to think I was probably better off with the cocaine addiction, considering cocaine is psychologically addictive vs. physically addictive with the opiates. Typical dumbass!

Le Junk

P.S. This is the first time I actually got this type of high off of opiates. When I take 1, then 1 more, then 1 more and finally the last one, I'm all like out of control speakin' a mile a minute kind of thing. But this time around, the buzz is basically identical to my blow once cleaned up. I thought that was interesting. Probably had a higher tolerance I wasn't aware of...............
 
it's strange how my tolerance is so low even after all this time (was using anything i could get for over a year, and been on suboxone for 8 months now) , i'd expect that tolerance would rise. all i need is maybe .1 or .2 mg bupe daily to get by. honestly, i'd consider a "high opioid tolerance" to be when 10mgs hydro/oxycodone won't do nothing . just my opinion
 
The 512 are 5/325 percs and the 54/543's are Roxicet 5/325 (generic percocet Iam prescribed #120 of those a month)

I personally think a cocaine addiction is MUCH WORSE THAN OPIATES, granted its different, like you said its psychologically addictive and opiates are both psychologically addictive and physically addictive. But the opaite last longer and over time I think they arent as bad for your body (since your using pharmeceutical opiates and not Heroin).

It all depends on HOW BAD the addiction gets when you use cocaine, is it worse than opiates? Or do you crave opiates more?

I read your GREAT thread about purifying cocaine, you definatly know alot about it.
 
I think 100 mgs a day of Hydro or oxy is a pretty high opiate addiction for people who dont have much of a tolerance and are getting LOADED all day from that amount (basically only New opiate users, no veterans). But when I had a street opiate addiction I was taking like 90-120mgs of oxy a dapy at the least, and some days when I took 90 Id be nodding out for HOURS, So even to some people who have been using for awile, 100mg's can sill be a NICE amount, especially if taken in 1 dose.
 
MethaContin said:
So even to some people who have been using for awile, 100mg's can sill be a NICE amount, especially if taken in 1 dose.

Now that would have been interesting, I'm sure! Holy crap!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8o

Le Junk................rookie opiate user
 
oh man, i hate the factors cocaine use brings with it. i won't even touch it without a handful of things to help ease the whole bit out. and methacontin, you mention that cocaine addiction seems to be worse than opiate addiction, and i'm assuming you mean the lifestyle and the hardships that come with the use/addiction. you're right in my opinion, in all/most aspects except the withdrawal of narcotics. i'd much rather cringe and pout in agony for another pick-me-up than be immobile, dysfunctional, depressed, and a sweating shitting mess for x amoutn of time.
 
zzITCHY420zz said:
oh man, i hate the factors cocaine use brings with it. i won't even touch it without a handful of things to help ease the whole bit out. The lifestyle and the hardships that come with the use/addiction. you're right in my opinion, in all/most aspects except the withdrawal of narcotics. i'd much rather cringe and pout in agony for another pick-me-up than be immobile, dysfunctional, depressed, and a sweating shitting mess for x amoutn of time.

^^^What drug are you refering too above? I know it's definately not cocaine, but was just curious..............................

Le Junk ;)
 
you are already addicted.

when was the last time u went a day without using? 2 days? 3 days? and so on....?

basically, if u havent been skipping 4-5 days in between uses, PSYCHOLOGICAL ADDICTION HAS ALREADY SET IN(le junk, i know u are NO idiot so i am quite suprised you are even posting this). now you just have to look forward to the physical torment too.

also i should mention that people who were addicted to cocaine will find opiates THAT MUCH more alluring....

i started doing cocaine when i was 16, and by 17 i was using up to 2g a day for about 4-5 months.
...THEN I FOUND OPIATES.
at first i did alot like you, used them to help with comedowns/speedballs....basically to enhance my cocaine addiction. then i got really tired of the comedowns from coke, and eventually started taking the opaites(namely hydrocodone) in attempts to still get high but not use coke.

1-2 months later i was at DRs offices trying to score scripts two to three times a month! tussionex too...all of this before i turned 18. then it moved to oxycodone first it was just percocets the 10mg variety popped three to four times a day(alot like u)....then i got a surgery done and had an excess of pills again perc 10s, so due in part to tolerance and pain from the Operation, i started taking 2-4 at once on an empty stomach-BLISS.
healed up, but was still taking pain meds....then i found an OC connect and could afford a good habit.

flashforward a few months and im taking 100mg or more to get high....a few more months its 200mg or more to get high(daily).....a few more months and its at its worse, 300-400mg OR MORE at once, daily....

stayed on that amount for about 5-6 months....then i couldnt afford it anymore and went on methadone maintanance...eventually 110mg per day for 8 months!

got off the methadone at the end of last year(NOV 2006), and have been using fentanyl, oxy, and heroin on a regular basis since

i have nothing really except opiates.

was it worth it? no.
was it fun? HELL YEA
would i do it differently? HELL YEA
 
yiggy said:
you are already addicted.

when was the last time u went a day without using? 2 days? 3 days? and so on....?

basically, if u havent been skipping 4-5 days in between uses, PSYCHOLOGICAL ADDICTION HAS ALREADY SET IN(le junk, i know u are NO idiot so i am quite suprised you are even posting this). now you just have to look forward to the physical torment too.

also i should mention that people who were addicted to cocaine will find opiates THAT MUCH more alluring....

i started doing cocaine when i was 16, and by 17 i was using up to 2g a day for about 4-5 months.
...THEN I FOUND OPIATES.
at first i did alot like you, used them to help with comedowns/speedballs....basically to enhance my cocaine addiction. then i got really tired of the comedowns from coke, and eventually started taking the opaites(namely hydrocodone) in attempts to still get high but not use coke.

1-2 months later i was at DRs offices trying to score scripts two to three times a month! tussionex too...all of this before i turned 18. then it moved to oxycodone first it was just percocets the 10mg variety popped three to four times a day(alot like u)....then i got a surgery done and had an excess of pills again perc 10s, so due in part to tolerance and pain from the Operation, i started taking 2-4 at once on an empty stomach-BLISS.
healed up, but was still taking pain meds....then i found an OC connect and could afford a good habit.

flashforward a few months and im taking 100mg or more to get high....a few more months its 200mg or more to get high(daily).....a few more months and its at its worse, 300-400mg OR MORE at once, daily....

stayed on that amount for about 5-6 months....then i couldnt afford it anymore and went on methadone maintanance...eventually 110mg per day for 8 months!

got off the methadone at the end of last year(NOV 2006), and have been using fentanyl, oxy, and heroin on a regular basis since

i have nothing really except opiates.

was it worth it? no.
was it fun? HELL YEA
would i do it differently? HELL YEA


It's the depressing realism of your story that could put a quick curb to this fairly new, and most likey, still treatable addiction in the making. FYI: some days I do only one 10/325, and others two. The most is usually four, and that's to combat a hangover...................as you well know the rationalization of.

This particular event is the first and last time going down this dirt road. I missed my exit and could never find my way back to the freeway. Some sleep oughta cure that........................

Thanks bro for sharing, though. ;)

Le Junk
 
I'd agree that a coke addiction is worse than an opiate one. From a health point of view, coke is a lot rougher on your body than opiates are, moa's being equal of course. But, from personal experience and form talking to others, a coke addiction is easier to overcome than an opiate one.

Just be careful and catch it early.
 
yea man no problem...its just i know firsthand, that a previous coke habit will make opiates that much more dangerous in terms of addiction potential...ESPECIALLY if you get that stimulation from opiates like you talked about cause you are able to function...thats what makes it so much worse because for months(or years in my case), you can kinda hide how bad it is because of how well you function on opiates(i get talkative, less anxious, social, etc...basically everything u want in most any real-life situations personal, business, or whatever). but unless you are 100% sure you want and CAN stay on opiates the rest of your life, this will never work.
i made it a couple of years before i fell.
 
By early I mean before you need outside help... You're only at about 50mgs a day, and I'm not sure how long you've been using, but it's probably not that long. But, you're at a point where you could easily get off of it cold turkey (with otc's and benzo's) and without a substitute(buprenorphine, methadone, etc).

Also, it seems like you're not that psychologically addicted which is the hardest part in the long run.
 
so if 100mg is considered a high opiate addiction what would my 500mg/day OC habbit be called? I cant even get high of that shit, i have to take that much to feel "normal" I remember one of the first times I took an opiate (5mg hydro) I was soo high for hours, god i miss those days.
 
I agree that 100mg of oxycodone per day or more is a high addiction. Many people can build a tolerance and do 240mg per day easily and not come close to overdosing. 500mg isn't unheard of, but that is extremely high. Personally the most I've ever taken per day is 80mg. I had a tolerance at the time and didn't even get sick from it. I got sick a week later when I ran out of pills then got ripped off. It was a rough withdrawal.
 
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